room0035 6,075 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 2 hours ago, CraigSGM said: Mate, he literally played 2 games under one manager and was then deemed not good enough by the following manager. At Mansfield Town of all places. If you actually believe that when young lads are having seasons like that we should be putting them on good long term contracts at that time, you've lost the plot. What I believe is every player that gets promoted from the development squad had been promoted because those in charge have deemed them worth while or good enough to be in that team or first team squad. Most fans have seen and also the manager that he is better than the established Left back we have on a lot more money. If it was me i would be tying him down to a long term contract now, because we are on sky again tonight and he has another good game the premiership scouts will be calling. If we value these players enough to develop and give them first team opportunity then why don't we value them enough to give then anymore than 1 year deals. Why should we be shocked when they then leave to another team offer a longer contract or more money. Link to post Share on other sites
sherlyegg 4,369 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, Beauchief Owl said: Penney deserves a contract and a big raise as he is now a first team player. He won't command the sort of wages paid to our top players however as he needs to prove himself over a much longer period. Hirst, Clare, Penney....what do they have in common? Clue: negotiating wages is left to 'others' .... Link to post Share on other sites
Hookowl 10,802 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, malek said: And he stumbled upon a magic wand this summer, turning him into good player all out of sudden ?! I would say it's more that he progressed and improved. It's what all young players hope to do and he succeeded. Link to post Share on other sites
StudentOwl 17,090 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 hour ago, owlZfan84 said: Evans talks a lot of pony there though, lets be reyt. Carlos would never have played him here. And, I don't even think Evans played him that much either? In fact, I even recall Penney saying recently that his time at Mansfield was frustrating. Evans left four weeks after Penney signed for Mansfield... although that said in those 4 or so weeks Penney only made two substitute appearances for Mansfield Link to post Share on other sites
beswetherick 3,991 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Sign him up. Quality tonight Link to post Share on other sites
Holmowl 23,491 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 1 minute ago, beswetherick said: Sign him up. Quality tonight Agree with your first sentence. Not your second. Casual, almost complacent. Gave the ball away too easily and too often. Massive potential, but needs to keep grounded. Link to post Share on other sites
I'm an Essex Owl 712 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I agree he has massive potential. and that he also needs to keep grounded. He is learning. He will make mistakes (like the shocking pass that gifted them possession and had half the team out of position at the start of their second goal. If you do that for the U23's there is zero likelihood of getting punished. Having said that it is criminal that three of our experienced "professionals" did not act contrary to the spirit of the game and bring down Barnes 50 yards from goal. Every other team would have done it. Link to post Share on other sites
vulva 29,424 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 I thought he was poor tonight, at times. He needs to play further up the pitch. We play a defensive 532. A better side with 3 better centre half’s would allow him to push on more. He’s wasted at left back. Wand of a left foot. Link to post Share on other sites
casbahowl 3,735 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 He’s got potential and I hope he realises that with us but he was directly responsible for their equaliser and was generally poor tonight. With the return of Bannan for the Bristol trip it’s maybe his place that’s forfeit! Link to post Share on other sites
Steve Down South 1,279 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Maybe part of the problem is that after a few decent performances most people have decided he has "massive" potential. He looks a footballer for sure and is comfortable on the ball - certainly worth offering a decent contract - but I worry he may be neither a full back or a wing back and tonight showed he still has a way to go. Link to post Share on other sites
stuzzas_barmyarmy 13 Posted October 3, 2018 Share Posted October 3, 2018 Done very well last few games. Tonight he he was poor in patches. Going to to get that with young lads getting into the 1st team unless there world class Link to post Share on other sites
casbahowl 3,735 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 His decision making and final ball fell way below what’s required. Had it been Fox who put in that performance he would have been crucified on here. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Avon barksdale 676 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 Awful pass led to there second goal . Yes there player should've been brought down but at this level giving the ball away so easily can see you get punished. Penney has been outstanding since he came into the team though Link to post Share on other sites
Beauchief Owl 2,651 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 I like Penney but he tends to overplay at times. Lost ball via a poor cross when on edge of WBA penalty area thus taking out at least three of our players who were in it and which ultimately led to them scoring. He also failed to deliver a cross by trying to beat his man several times in similar position later on when he could have crossed into a dangerous area instead. I hope he learns from these mistakes and that simple is sometimes best. Link to post Share on other sites
fred mciver 552 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 That Radio Sheffield interview this week was ominous. Batted away all new contract talk - not even usual '..would love to stay here ..' Must be Doyen. Let's hope they take same approach as with Joao. Link to post Share on other sites
owlZfan84 9,568 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, fred mciver said: That Radio Sheffield interview this week was ominous. Batted away all new contract talk - not even usual '..would love to stay here ..' Must be Doyen. Let's hope they take same approach as with Joao. You can calm down now. 1 Link to post Share on other sites
Hookowl 10,802 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, fred mciver said: That Radio Sheffield interview this week was ominous. Batted away all new contract talk - not even usual '..would love to stay here ..' Must be Doyen. Let's hope they take same approach as with Joao. His agents are KIN Partners, not heard anything about them either good or bad. Link to post Share on other sites
daveyboy66 10,828 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, fred mciver said: That Radio Sheffield interview this week was ominous. Batted away all new contract talk - not even usual '..would love to stay here ..' Must be Doyen. Let's hope they take same approach as with Joao. Absolute rounduns as per Link to post Share on other sites
fred mciver 552 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 1 minute ago, daveyboy66 said: Absolute rounduns as per Yep, sorry, not on Twitter and relief if not Doyen. Penney could be our Roland N. on left. Link to post Share on other sites
royalowlisback 8,895 Posted October 4, 2018 Share Posted October 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Hookowl said: His agents are KIN Partners, not heard anything about them either good or bad. Lets just hope they don't merge with HELL associates. 6 Link to post Share on other sites
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