paulrs Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I’ll be honest I’ve laid into Carlos plenty on here about many things, including rushin players back too soon... but with Carlos long gone the injuries just keep coming. The new season is only 10 games in and by my reckoning we’ve already seen new injuries and/or setbacks for Matias Hutchinson Thorniley Pudil Lee Joao Van Aken Fox Winnall Hooper Sure I’ve also heard some of the younger lads like Nielsen and Preston have also had injuries too. Meanwhile several others are nowhere to be seen - Abdi, Westwood, Jones & Boyd. injured too or just out of favour? Its frankly ridiculous that we only seem to have a handful of players who are capable of staying fit for 6 months in a row! I said last season when the injury crisis was at its peak that I wanted the club to come out publicly and say a thorough investigation would take place into all aspects of players fitness and rehabilitation to prevent such a crisis ever happening again. They never did, so I’ve no idea if anything happened behind the scenes, but already this season we must have one of the longest injury lists of any championship side with at least 9 players missing for tomorrow and that’s before you factor in those who are out in the cold like Westwood. Can’t be down to Carlos now... and surely it’s not just bad luck either?! 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest addedtime Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 How many of these are a hangover from before though? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Who was it that placed the curse on SWFC? The Thai Monks haven't lifted it so who do we think could? Does anyone know any Shaman... We need to move. Start a fresh, and leave these cursed waters behind. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 11 minutes ago, paulrs said: I’ll be honest I’ve laid into Carlos plenty on here about many things, including rushin players back too soon... but with Carlos long gone the injuries just keep coming. The new season is only 10 games in and by my reckoning we’ve already seen new injuries and/or setbacks for Matias Hutchinson Thorniley Pudil Lee Joao Van Aken Fox Winnall Hooper Sure I’ve also heard some of the younger lads like Nielsen and Preston have also had injuries too. Meanwhile several others are nowhere to be seen - Abdi, Westwood, Jones & Boyd. injured too or just out of favour? Its frankly ridiculous that we only seem to have a handful of players who are capable of staying fit for 6 months in a row! I said last season when the injury crisis was at its peak that I wanted the club to come out publicly and say a thorough investigation would take place into all aspects of players fitness and rehabilitation to prevent such a crisis ever happening again. They never did, so I’ve no idea if anything happened behind the scenes, but already this season we must have one of the longest injury lists of any championship side with at least 9 players missing for tomorrow and that’s before you factor in those who are out in the cold like Westwood. Can’t be down to Carlos now... and surely it’s not just bad luck either?! Thorniley & Joao are the future, the rest can be let go for me when the time comes... apart from maybe Winnall? he deserves a second chance I feel Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 It doesn't make good reading whoever is to blame Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 10 minutes ago, addedtime said: How many of these are a hangover from before though? Quite Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Popular Post Sultan_Pepper Posted October 2, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted October 2, 2018 My last doctor smashed my leg into 15 pieces with a massive hammer. It still hurts now so it must by my new doctor's fault 2 10 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brett11 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Continually playing players through injuries, forcing them to have injections in order to play, thus resulting in the injury not being dealt with and getting worse over time, all for the goal of short term success and no acknowledgement to the longer term plan. Also a decreasing general fitness whilst he was in charge. I feel the blame lies solely with CC and his staff at the time. The old proverb ‘a stitch in time saves nine’ is all too evident here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sonny Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 (edited) Half of those are still injured from when Carlos was here. You don’t just get a clean slate when the manager changes. Pudil broke his nose ffs Edited October 2, 2018 by Sonny 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lythamowl Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 or maybe we bought a lot of crocks?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
robswfc Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Ridiculous blaming Carlos for player injuries in the first place anyway.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 24 minutes ago, oi_you_owl said: Who was it that placed the curse on SWFC? The Thai Monks haven't lifted it so who do we think could? Does anyone know any Shaman... We need to move. Start a fresh, and leave these cursed waters behind. It’s been folklore going back to when I started going that the ground was cursed. Sounds ridiculous but with some of the stuff that’s happened over the years you have to wonder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Many of those bought under CC reign were of an age were injuries are more common so you can expect the trend to continue until they reach the club. When signing players it is normal to look at fitness record and see if prone to injury, this was clearly not done as we have ended up with several permanent crocks. In one or two cases it is possible the management of players during that time led to players facing longer lay offs than would have otherwise been necessary and we still have hang overs from that. You mention Thorniley he missed one game and returned. Joao I think missed 3 games and returned. Pudil has broken nose and could have played but decision made to recover properly before risking further impact injury on that area. Matias has just been fit for longest stint of his time with Wednesday and now has hamstring injury and will return in 3 weeks. Hooper has not played a game yet in first team for JP. His record indicates he has had a period injured each year since aged 24 /25 and from memory has averaged around 30 games a season. When looking at buying a player for the Championship which is about as physically demanding league you can get one would have thought a look at medical history would be normal procedure. Hutchinson was acquired at a time when we had few resources and had previously been medically retired. Issue here is his contract was extended to end of next season. With injury record this was ridiculous and management must have been advised by manager at time what type of contract to give. Van Aken is very slow and not nimble on feet. He was crashed into by Sunderland player most players would have jumped to lessen impact but he stayed planted to ground and took full impact. Similar thing happened last year. A large unit who is not suited to fast paced English football. I was not aware Fox was injured but from some displays he could have been playing with injury. Winnall has progressed well from injury which occurred whilst on loan and apparently will soon be playing. Abdi who has been injured for most of last 2 seasons is now fit, a success you failed to mention :-) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 A few were Carlos, but the majority are born crocks But as we all know there has to be a scapegoat and it’s never a player issue Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CraigSGM Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 I think you're sensationalising this a little bit. Last season was extraordinary because we had 15+ players on long term injuries. This season is a little different. Having players out in the short term is perfectly normal. Pudil, Joao, Thorniley and Fox picking up knocks and missing a couple of games - all teams have that sort of thing. So they're not worth worrying about. Every player will go through a couple of weeks in a season where they're feeling a tight muscle, or they've taken a bit of a kick in the previous game. Some managers will give them some painkillers and tell them to carry on, others will give them a week or so to recover. Either way, it's common, so not one to count in the injury stats. Lee, Hooper and Winnall are still out from last season. Nothing new there. Winnall wasn't even at the club when he did his, so again, nothing to shout about there. Van Aken was only just back in the squad and took a right clattering. Even the fittest of players would have been at serious risk of injury there. Then there's Hutch & Matias. We all know the story with them. So really, there's nothing to worry about. Unless all of the above are out for months at the same time, it's a non-issue. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Have we still got that medical team of random Portuguese people that Carlos brought in when he appeared to blame the previous staff for the squad getting a lot of injuries and sacked them? The same medical team that we had all of last season when players kept making comebacks only to quickly break again? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Deepcar_lights Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 17 minutes ago, Ibbo48 said: It’s been folklore going back to when I started going that the ground was cursed. Sounds ridiculous but with some of the stuff that’s happened over the years you have to wonder Right! Exactly what I was thinking...Wonder where it originated from. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 Carlos will still be blamed for the next 2 or 3 years. He's an easy scapegoat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 54 minutes ago, paulrs said: I’ll be honest I’ve laid into Carlos plenty on here about many things, including rushin players back too soon... but with Carlos long gone the injuries just keep coming. The new season is only 10 games in and by my reckoning we’ve already seen new injuries and/or setbacks for Matias Hutchinson Thorniley Pudil Lee Joao Van Aken Fox Winnall Hooper Sure I’ve also heard some of the younger lads like Nielsen and Preston have also had injuries too. Meanwhile several others are nowhere to be seen - Abdi, Westwood, Jones & Boyd. injured too or just out of favour? Its frankly ridiculous that we only seem to have a handful of players who are capable of staying fit for 6 months in a row! I said last season when the injury crisis was at its peak that I wanted the club to come out publicly and say a thorough investigation would take place into all aspects of players fitness and rehabilitation to prevent such a crisis ever happening again. They never did, so I’ve no idea if anything happened behind the scenes, but already this season we must have one of the longest injury lists of any championship side with at least 9 players missing for tomorrow and that’s before you factor in those who are out in the cold like Westwood. Can’t be down to Carlos now... and surely it’s not just bad luck either?! Your right it's nothing to do with Carlos, it must be down to the medical team that told him that what he was doing making injured players play wasn't right, quite obviously they deserved the sack . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ibbo48 Posted October 2, 2018 Share Posted October 2, 2018 1 minute ago, oi_you_owl said: Right! Exactly what I was thinking...Wonder where it originated from. Someone on here will know !! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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