roundhayowl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 48 minutes ago, briggowl said: Other tham his goal, static, no creativity, didn't move. Don't really understand his or Reach's role today. They spent most of their time jogging in a line with Fletcher waiting for Bannan to find them (which he did for the goal). Very dissapointing that they don't have the brain's to come get the ball/help bannan & pelupessy/run wide etc. Feel they left BB to do most of the work. Not good enough IMO. Agreed. Took his goal well, but anonymous other than that. Deplorable antics when throwing himself to the floor. Still too weak. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 (edited) Keep him up front instead of pratting about defending. Will be a lot more effective Edited September 16, 2018 by Watson Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 I think he’s lightweight and goes to ground too easily. His work rate is good and he’s decent but he should not be in the team ahead of Forestieri. He’s a far better player. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bobness Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 minutes ago, Watson said: Keep him up front instead of pratting about defending. Will be a lot more effective Haven't watched the recent matches, but judging on the ones I did see, it appears Jos likes playing him specifically because of his defensive contributions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, bobness said: Haven't watched the recent matches, but judging on the ones I did see, it appears Jos likes playing him specifically because of his defensive contributions. A waste of his ability for me, same with Joao keep them up front predominately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 He’s decent , and I think he’ll get better. He hasn’t played for ages so it isn’t going to happen over night . I love how some are so critical of him yet are desperate for the return of the ultimate waste of space abdi . Agreed re diving , I hate that. But the untouchable forestieri is equally as bad for diving so if we are gonna stop one We should deffo be stopping the other Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 4 hours ago, roundhayowl said: Agreed. Took his goal well, but anonymous other than that. Deplorable antics when throwing himself to the floor. Still too weak. Agree also, apart from his goal he did little all afternoon to trouble the Stoke defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 14 minutes ago, LittleG said: Agree also, apart from his goal he did little all afternoon to trouble the Stoke defence Apart from Fletcher you could say that about most of the players yesterday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Needs to stop diving and falling down So irritating to see him writhing around pleading for a free kick as the opposition are running up the pitch towards our goal Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 minute ago, GerOwl said: Apart from Fletcher you could say that about most of the players yesterday. You're probably right. Only B&B and Joao were effective at times yesterday, and then Joao dropped too deep on the second half. With regards to Matias this season, apart from working hard I have not seen a lot from him troubling opposition defences Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 He played ok yesterday but imo is far too easily moved off the ball and will choose to hit the deck ( not dive ) rather than battle Im sick to the back teeth of seeing him on his arse arms in the air pleading for an already denied foul while his opponent gets on with it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 Not offering much unfortunately, tends to go down easily. Needs to offer more by taking players on and getting in behind etc Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 36 minutes ago, LittleG said: You're probably right. Only B&B and Joao were effective at times yesterday, and then Joao dropped too deep on the second half. With regards to Matias this season, apart from working hard I have not seen a lot from him troubling opposition defences He's not troubling the defence coz he's messing about working too hard in defence Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 BB and Fletch we're ok and have a really good understanding, must be a comb-over thing. Joao taking men on on the halfway line makes him look great but was also just as ineffective as Matias was. Joao scored two the other week but was god awful in that match, here he was the second coming. Matias scores and still gets hammered. Pelupessy does all the dirty, crappy jobs so Bannan can play his game but gets slated as well. Nuhui plays 3 halves of total dogger then gets praised to the heavens for his 2nd half performance at Reading. I think proper internet decorum dictates I write "rant off" here. I am yet to see us play well this year. We seem to be scraping by and nicking the wins by the odd goal, if we could continue like that it would be great. Unfortunately we look like we could be on the end of one soon if we don't sort out the defensive side. Hopefully this doesn't coincide with the Leeds match or even worse against United. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 9 minutes ago, Watson said: He's not troubling the defence coz he's messing about working too hard in defence Exactly. He should be causing problems for the other team defences not constantly getting plaudits for helping out in ours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 7 hours ago, Holmowl said: 16/17 and 17/18 season combined - 475 minutes August 11th to Sept 15th - 490 minutes Bizarre but very welcome about-turn. Credit to Jos I assume. Anyone would think his contract is soon due to be discussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 hours ago, ... said: Hows he been so far? its hard to believe he cost 3 million 3 years ago and came with a BIG reputation... Always wanted him to come good and hoping he finally is? Cost no where near 3 million. Maybe what we paid for him and Joao. https://twitter.com/DaleJohnsonESPN/status/619038929333960704?s=19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 1 hour ago, james o connor said: He’s decent , and I think he’ll get better. He hasn’t played for ages so it isn’t going to happen over night . I love how some are so critical of him yet are desperate for the return of the ultimate waste of space abdi . Agreed re diving , I hate that. But the untouchable forestieri is equally as bad for diving so if we are gonna stop one We should deffo be stopping the other Who's desperate for the return of abdi? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest LittleG Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 10 minutes ago, GerOwl said: BB and Fletch we're ok and have a really good understanding, must be a comb-over thing. Joao taking men on on the halfway line makes him look great but was also just as ineffective as Matias was. Joao scored two the other week but was god awful in that match, here he was the second coming. Matias scores and still gets hammered. Pelupessy does all the dirty, crappy jobs so Bannan can play his game but gets slated as well. Nuhui plays 3 halves of total dogger then gets praised to the heavens for his 2nd half performance at Reading. I think proper internet decorum dictates I write "rant off" here. I am yet to see us play well this year. We seem to be scraping by and nicking the wins by the odd goal, if we could continue like that it would be great. Unfortunately we look like we could be on the end of one soon if we don't sort out the defensive side. Hopefully this doesn't coincide with the Leeds match or even worse against United. What you have got to realise is that people have different opinions; if they don't agree with you they are not necessarily wrong. Reflecting on the players you mentioned BB had a very good game, Fletcher tried hard but the service was poor, Joao played too deep at times but still looks like the only one to score, Matias anonymous apart from his goal, Joey poor because of he constantly looks for the easy ball and didn't protect the defence and Nuihu was his usual self in harassing the Stoke defence. I agree with you that we need to sort out the Defence, conceding every match even though they are bring helped out by players who should be causing problems further up the pitch Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted September 16, 2018 Share Posted September 16, 2018 18 hours ago, owl-zat said: Been hoping he'd come good for a few years now but what dies annoy me is he's always looking for the foul going down too easily and today he went down like he'd taken a punch from Tyson Fury holding his face when I don't think he was even touched in the face area Is that when their fullback gave him a full on forearm smash? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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