bladeshater Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, JoshTheOwl said: I dont expect every single English person to go to England games but Christ that’s a very bizarre opinion where’s the pride? I have pride but it's for a team in blue and white anything else means nothing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 12 hours ago, I'm an Essex Owl said: We were second best for most of the game but still created the best chances and if Rashford could finish (and if the ref wasn't so completely incompetent) we would have won 4-2. For all of their lovely possession they didn't create much and their second goal was a gift. that was a 1 out of 10 refereeing performance. That yellow card for Stones though I wonder what the FIFA ref assessors will do to the ref for two diabolical decisions. Feck all. There's is the only professional where they are highly paid but fail misrerably time after time with little if no accountability. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 7 minutes ago, steveger said: bizarre comment England did extremely well at the world cup for a "second rate team".... Played two decent teams Belgium and Croatia and guess what happened Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 minute ago, bladeshater said: Played two decent teams Belgium and Croatia and guess what happened I also don't get this 'we did well' in the world cup. Overall England were crap. Spain are a vastly more technical team and it showed last night. The coaching of our national side is so far apart from the Spains, French, Belgiums etc. Strange as a fair amount of there squads play in the Premier league and folk on here are crying out for a English manager of our local side. Very odd indeed. Gareth Southgate is showing he is a very average manager/coach. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dronfield Blue Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, A12owl said: One of the brightest points of last night game was seeing the young man who accompanied Harry Kane into the pitch and with his presentation of the Golden boot award. He gave a heart rending smile when posing with Kane. There has to be a story behind it. Anybody know? https://www.dailymail.co.uk/sport/football/article-6146689/Harry-Kane-presented-World-Cup-Golden-Boot-England-manager-Gareth-Southgate.html Harry Kane presented with World Cup Golden Boot by England boss Gareth Southgate before UEFA Nations League game against Spain Top scorer Kane was handed the Golden Boot award at Wembley on Saturday England captain scored six goals in six games at the tournament in Russia He was accompanied by mascot Ben Williams, who is battling a brain tumour By AMITAI WINEHOUSE PUBLISHED: 15:37 EDT, 8 September 2018 | UPDATED: 17:39 EDT, 8 September 2018 e-mail 35 View comments Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 10 hours ago, camffiti said: 5-1-1 formation (with 3 hiding 'between the lines') still not working Southgate still relying on those corner routines, that he stole from Paul Warne It cost us a World Cup Final place and this system won’t get us anywhere near to the level we need to be Like Wednesday it made England solid for a period but just leaves you lacking in offensively pro active areas and usually over run in midfield Hope Southgate changes it like Wednesday have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 13 hours ago, Bouncing Owl said: We are a second rate football nation in my opinion. We are a way off. Tad unlucky with the disallowed goal but Spain are a much better outfit. But who created the better chances when all’s said and done ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 13 hours ago, JoshTheOwl said: More entertaining game than usual. Ref was absolutely atrocious, how the fizz can that be a foul? Gave everything against us. Not seen replays of the penalty appeal in the 1st half, although looked another poor decision. Southgate needs to up his attacking game. A lot of the ball but still so static, so often we turned back and passed it around the back. Not convinced the back 5 is the way forward as it stifles any attacks. Taking so look to bring on a forward thinking player in Welbevk was very disappointing You mean we missed Sterling then ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, A12owl said: One of the brightest points of last night game was seeing the young man who accompanied Harry Kane into the pitch and with his presentation of the Golden boot award. He gave a heart rending smile when posing with Kane. There has to be a story behind it. Anybody know? Yes it was a touching moment and I hope it made that little stars day bless him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, dewsburyowl58 said: But who created the better chances when all’s said and done ? That is true. I’m right behind Southgate and I hope he’s the manager for a long time. He deserves time to build and mould a new youthful team and also develop a different brand of football to previous England teams. My point was, when do England ever win against elite teams. Our record in competition football in knockout games is so poor. I think our last win against an elite team in knockout football was against Spain in Euro 96 and that was a penalty shoot out. We are still miles away and patience is needed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 1 hour ago, CLswfc said: I also don't get this 'we did well' in the world cup. Overall England were crap. Spain are a vastly more technical team and it showed last night. The coaching of our national side is so far apart from the Spains, French, Belgiums etc. Strange as a fair amount of there squads play in the Premier league and folk on here are crying out for a English manager of our local side. Very odd indeed. Gareth Southgate is showing he is a very average manager/coach. Wonder what we could achieve if we were good then ? Last night was only the 2nd defeat ever at Wembley in a competitive game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dewsburyowl58 Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Bouncing Owl said: That is true. I’m right behind Southgate and I hope he’s the manager for a long time. He deserves time to build and mould a new youthful team and also develop a different brand of football to previous England teams. My point was, when do England ever win against elite teams. Our record in competition football in knockout games is so poor. I think our last win against an elite team in knockout football was against Spain in Euro 96 and that was a penalty shoot out. We are still miles away and patience is needed. I agree mate we are WIP at the moment , new style of play trying different players etc . I think quite a few last night got wake up calls as they were found wanting under pressure . Our record in major tournaments against the top teams is poor we beat Argentina in 2002 and that’s as good as it gets Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lombardo Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 (edited) I failed to excited by the pre tournament frendlies, but was watching all the WC games and was delighted with the 4th place because, I admit, my expectations were much lower before the start. Spain have a good set of players, but as someone else says we are a WIP and so will have higher expectation at the next tourney where I may end up being disssapointed....... Edited September 9, 2018 by Lombado Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bez Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 We smashed you 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JoshTheOwl Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 3 hours ago, dewsburyowl58 said: You mean we missed Sterling then ? Unfortunately yes. Although I don’t think he’d have scored that Rashford goal 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
edmontonowl Posted September 9, 2018 Share Posted September 9, 2018 Just now, Bez said: We smashed you Fu..ck off Bez Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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