Woodie Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 37 minutes ago, gurujuan said: Fletcher is a throwback to the days of a big target man, scrapping for everything and not giving the defenders time to settle. While those attributes are still useful in football at this level, they are not enough, and quite frankly, limit our attacking abilities, rather than enhance them. We need a more mobile centre forward, and use Fletcher from the bench as a plan B option If you play with only one striker, like we have since Jos left. I expect them to be a goal threat, he’s the complete opposite to Joao who is inconsistent, doesn’t look bothered half of the time ,doesn’t seem to put a shift in, hardly notice him but has been popping up with goals. Joao’s goals per minute ratio must be up there in the championship this year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bladeshater Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 17 minutes ago, Groundhopping Owl said: James Collins going to Ipswich. Their signings are smacking of utter desperation. They are deperate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
football=owls Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 1 hour ago, gurujuan said: Fletcher is a throwback to the days of a big target man, scrapping for everything and not giving the defenders time to settle. While those attributes are still useful in football at this level, they are not enough, and quite frankly, limit our attacking abilities, rather than enhance them. We need a more mobile centre forward, and use Fletcher from the bench as a plan B option To an extent I agree with you and would rather have a more complete forward, but as France showed during the world cup you don’t need your target man to score goals if he brings others into play around him. Olivier Giroud didn’t have a shot on target in the whole tournament. Edited January 10, 2019 by football=owls 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 3 hours ago, swfcGibbo said: This one is gathering momentum. https://www.footballinsider247.com/bruce-in-hunt-for-milosevic/ We have a chance of getting these type of players without pushing the boat all the way out re wages now we have a manager with a reputation Edit... good reputation Edited January 10, 2019 by keepitsteel89 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, football=owls said: To an extent I agree with you and would rather have a more complete forward, but as France showed during the world cup you don’t need your target man to score goals if he brings others into play around him. Olivier Giroud didn’t have a shot on target in the whole tournament. The thing with Giroud, and I know you’re not making a direct comparison, is that he is excellent at bringing others into play, either with head, but also on the ground. With Fletcher, it’s more about picking up the scraps from the problems he poses. None of our strikers feed on those sort of scraps. If someone like Forestieri, or even Matias, play the ball to him, they expect it to be returned straight away That doesn’t happen with Fletcher, it’s always a battle, which, even if he wins it, it always slows the attack down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Gurus agenda against Fletcher is confusing to say the least. Arguably been one if out top 3 performers this season. Last position we need to sign a player in is striker. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheriwozgod Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 A third of the way in and no movement either way.................hope things pick up soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) 3 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Gurus agenda against Fletcher is confusing to say the least. Arguably been one if out top 3 performers this season. Last position we need to sign a player in is striker. I noticed this as well. He is the best centre forward at the club. He would probably be a lot better in a two but we won't play that I don't think. (Not counting the terminally injured Hooper that is) Edited January 10, 2019 by Guest added Hooper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, GerOwl said: I noticed this as well. He is the best centre forward at the club. He would probably be a lot better in a two but we won't play that I don't think. 100% he's our best centre forward. Him and Hooper were fantastic as a 2 in our march to the play offs from 7th back in April 2017. He does play well in an attacking 3 though, if he has quicker wingers around him to bring into play. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 5 minutes ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Gurus agenda against Fletcher is confusing to say the least. Arguably been one if out top 3 performers this season. Last position we need to sign a player in is striker. We’ll see, but I fully expect Bruce to try and bring in a new centre forward. In my opinion, playing Fletcher as a lone centre forward, doesn’t work, either for him, or us Consequently, it would be one of the first issues I’d expect Bruce to tackle Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fpowl Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 Said it before I’ll say it again problem isn’t with fletcher it’s getting players closer to him or up supporting hi quicker he’s a top player, just needs the right kind of players around him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 minute ago, fpowl said: Said it before I’ll say it again problem isn’t with fletcher it’s getting players closer to him or up supporting hi quicker he’s a top player, just needs the right kind of players around him but we don’t play that way. To get the best out of Fletcher, he needs to be one of a pair, alongside someone who plays off him, someone like Dwight Gayle, for instance Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Birley Owl 1867 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 11 minutes ago, gurujuan said: We’ll see, but I fully expect Bruce to try and bring in a new centre forward. In my opinion, playing Fletcher as a lone centre forward, doesn’t work, either for him, or us Consequently, it would be one of the first issues I’d expect Bruce to tackle To be fair pal, the ideal centre forward is Steven Fletcher. The player you describe is a striker, a different role and position to centre forward. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
selbyowls Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 3 hours ago, swfcGibbo said: This one is gathering momentum. https://www.footballinsider247.com/bruce-in-hunt-for-milosevic/ https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/46816207 We must be paying £51,000,000 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 34 minutes ago, sheriwozgod said: A third of the way in and no movement either way.................hope things pick up soon. Yes, one hopes it’s nothing to do with Bruce being absent from the job We probably have more deals to do than most, and yet we haven’t managed one yet, in or out Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
No Uniform Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 28 minutes ago, selbyowls said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/46816207 We must be paying £51,000,000 Huh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 46 minutes ago, selbyowls said: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/46816207 We must be paying £51,000,000 Wrong name my friend.. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
keepitsteel89 Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 (edited) And position, and club, and nationality.. your defiantly on the right forum tho Edited January 10, 2019 by keepitsteel89 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ballmeist Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 1 hour ago, Birley Owl 1867 said: Gurus agenda against Fletcher is confusing to say the least. Arguably been one if out top 3 performers this season. Last position we need to sign a player in is striker. Guru always has an agenda against players, used to be Rhodes, now its Fletcher 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted January 10, 2019 Share Posted January 10, 2019 I’d like to see us ship out Reach for decent money and bring in 2 rapid wing backs. Next season I think Bruce will go with fletcher and Rhodes up front. Middle of the park will be Bannan, Hutch and forestieri. 3 at the back and wing backs. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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