Spencerowl Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 19 hours ago, Quist said: This is an idea that should be explored. The subsidies which were available for doing this work are no longer around so may have to pay for work ourselves but you would think it would be worth while. If we owned the panels and equipement could easily move them if required. I am not certain about load bearing of the roof so that would have to be checked. OP deserves credit for sensible suggestion, its a pity the failed comedians have to have their input. It’s a terrible idea that would take years to recoup investment and the benefits would pay Abdi a wages for a few days Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 8 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: @Hillsborough Mole God this is tedious, it doesnt add up any more mate but don't take my word for it. Martin Lewis of Money Saving Expert off the TV, not got any axe to grind. Its not March 2019 yet Which is why business are fast tracking installations to ensure they benefit from the FIT Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 15 hours ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Yes exactly that He has unlimited funds, he's not allowed to spend them remember He should also build a business centre on the club's land, and rent that out too. Infrastructure investment that generates income for the club There's countless ways he can invest his 'limitless funds' that will benefit the club without impacting on FFP This is not completely true. None football income is treated differently. Otherwise, he could just put £100m in, use it to buy a profit making company as a subsidiary of the parent company and use that profit to offset the losses of the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Income linked to the stadium wouldnt be none football income though Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 It depends. It's all a bit complicated but given that there isn't any space at the stadium, it wouldn't actually be part of the stadium would it. It would be a totally separate property somewhere else so how do you explain that as football income? What's a busy and successful conference centre going to make in profits? Less than £1m a year that's for sure. I'm not trying to knock the ideas just saying that it's never as straightforward as it seems. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Sorry, just saw you said business centre to rent out. That's definitely not going to classify as football income is it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 You could build a business centre into the new West Stand. So yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Good on the OP for making a suggestion but in summary.... 1. Even if we install before March 2019 the feed in tariff rate is a miserly .0015p and thus would generate hardly any savings. 2. The local grid is unlikely to take all of our supply. 3. The roofs of our stands would need substantial strengthening to achieve the correct load bearing. Hitting payback due to cost. 4. Unlike factories working 5 or 6 days of the week manufacturing stuff, we don't even use a lot of electricity so the savings would be minimal. It's not something that's viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Ive never understood why we havent embraced solar panels on the roof of the stands as a way of generating revenue A friend of mine generates around £80k a year in selling electricty back to the grid because his solar panels on his factory roof generate all the power he needs and more. His factory roof is nowhere near the size of just one of our stand roofs - Im sure we could generate enough electric at Hillsborough to give the club all the free electricity it needs an then generate revenue too. Potentially a good idea if the figures could be made to work. As per the last poster, probably won’t with the feed in tariffs being so low. The cladding on all stands less the South is at least 30 years old so getting to the point where the fixings and the coating starts to go. If you were to put solar panels up you’d have to consider when you were going to replace the cladding as this would skew your investment appraisal. Similarly you would have to consider structural loading and provision of walkways to allow safe access for cleaning and maintenance. Edited August 28, 2018 by airborne_rat_of_s6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 21 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: You could build a business centre into the new West Stand. So yes. D Taxi’s offices Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
King_Monkey Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said: Good on the OP for making a suggestion but in summary.... 1. Even if we install before March 2019 the feed in tariff rate is a miserly .0015p and thus would generate hardly any savings. 2. The local grid is unlikely to take all of our supply. 3. The roofs of our stands would need substantial strengthening to achieve the correct load bearing. Hitting payback due to cost. 4. Unlike factories working 5 or 6 days of the week manufacturing stuff, we don't even use a lot of electricity so the savings would be minimal. It's not something that's viable. The current export rate is 0.05p and has actually gone up from just under 0.04p. Panels could be installed on any roof of the ground for export however it would have to be under a G59 application where the energy company (Northern Powergrid in this instance) would have to agree to it all, they would probably accept it in all fairness due to the number of large commercial businesses in the area drawing of the grid in that area. It may cost the club a few thousand thought to get it passed. It is a decent idea and is definitely something the club should have looked at long before now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Onge Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 The sun hasn't shone on Hillsborough for about 2 decades. We'd be the first company ever to lose money on the bloody things... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 1 hour ago, airborne_rat_of_s6 said: D Taxi’s offices And how big is this new business centre going to be? How much income would it generate? I completely agree that the club has to explore new revenue streams but there has to be some value in it. Building a new stand that will sit 80% empty for 80% of matches so we can put in a business centre that raises £200k a year is not really viable. I'm sure when the time comes to rebuild or move, non matchday income will be at the forefront of the planning but for now, we are working with what we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 To be fair Hillsborough Mole is at least kicking a few ideas about, might come up with something viable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougoumont Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 27/08/2018 at 09:51, pride_of_the_road said: Is the ground south facing The North stand is. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 Solar panels tho Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 (edited) 24 minutes ago, Lichfield alien said: Solar panels tho If mccabes not doing it then it aint worth doing. Always follow the people who are making money Edited August 28, 2018 by pride_of_the_road Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DuttyTeabags Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 On 27/08/2018 at 15:23, Hillsborough Mole said: Ive never understood why we havent embraced solar panels on the roof of the stands as a way of generating revenue A friend of mine generates around £80k a year in selling electricty back to the grid because his solar panels on his factory roof generate all the power he needs and more. His factory roof is nowhere near the size of just one of our stand roofs - Im sure we could generate enough electric at Hillsborough to give the club all the free electricity it needs an then generate revenue too. You my man are a genius. I reckon we should relo to the nearest station to HS2 and then the cafe will always be busy and it'll be easy for away fans plus commercial revenue will increase as we can become a meeting / training location for organistions with sales teams located in the North and South of the country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Nero Posted August 28, 2018 Share Posted August 28, 2018 5 hours ago, King_Monkey said: The current export rate is 0.05p and has actually gone up from just under 0.04p. Panels could be installed on any roof of the ground for export however it would have to be under a G59 application where the energy company (Northern Powergrid in this instance) would have to agree to it all, they would probably accept it in all fairness due to the number of large commercial businesses in the area drawing of the grid in that area. It may cost the club a few thousand thought to get it passed. It is a decent idea and is definitely something the club should have looked at long before now. That's the domestic tariff. For large scale commercial over 1 megawatt it's 0.0015. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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