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19 hours ago, Quist said:

This is an idea that should be explored.

The subsidies which were available for doing this work are no longer around so may have to pay for work ourselves but you would think it would be worth while. If we owned the panels and equipement could easily move them if required. 

I am not certain about load bearing of the roof so that would have to be checked.

OP deserves credit for sensible suggestion, its a pity the failed comedians have to have their input.

It’s a terrible idea that would take years to recoup investment and the benefits would pay Abdi a wages for a few days 

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8 hours ago, Peacenocchio said:

@Hillsborough Mole

God this is tedious, it doesnt add up any more mate  but don't take my word for it. Martin Lewis of Money Saving Expert off the TV, not got any axe to grind.

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Its not March 2019 yet

 

Which is why business are fast tracking installations to ensure they benefit from the FIT

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15 hours ago, Hillsborough Mole said:

Yes exactly that

 

He has unlimited funds, he's not allowed to spend them remember

 

He should also build a business centre on the club's land, and rent that out too. Infrastructure investment that generates income for the club

 

There's countless ways he can invest his 'limitless funds' that will benefit the club without impacting on FFP

This is not completely true. None football income is treated differently. 

 

Otherwise, he could just put £100m in, use it to buy a profit making company as a subsidiary of the parent company and use that profit to offset the losses of the club.

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It depends. It's all a bit complicated but given that there isn't any space at the stadium, it wouldn't actually be part of the stadium would it. It would be a totally separate property somewhere else so how do you explain that as football income? 

 

What's a busy and successful conference centre going to make in profits? Less than £1m a year that's for sure.

 

I'm not trying to knock the ideas just saying that it's never as straightforward as it seems.

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Good on the OP for making a suggestion but in summary....

1. Even if we install before March 2019 the feed in tariff rate is a miserly .0015p and thus would generate hardly any savings.

2. The local grid is unlikely to take all of our supply.

3. The roofs of our stands would need substantial strengthening to achieve the correct load bearing. Hitting payback due to cost.

4. Unlike factories working 5 or 6 days of the week manufacturing stuff, we don't even use a lot of electricity so the savings would be minimal.

 

It's not something that's viable.

 

 

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23 hours ago, Hillsborough Mole said:

Ive never understood why we havent embraced solar panels on the roof of the stands as a way of generating revenue

 

A friend of mine generates around £80k a year in selling electricty back to the grid because his solar panels on his factory roof generate all the power he needs and more. His factory roof is nowhere near the size of just one of our stand roofs - Im sure we could generate enough electric at Hillsborough to give the club all the free electricity it needs an then generate revenue too.

 

 

Potentially a good idea if the figures could be made to work. As per the last poster, probably won’t with the feed in tariffs being so low. The cladding on all stands less the South is at least 30 years old so getting to the point where the fixings and the coating starts to go. If you were to put solar panels up you’d have to consider when you were going to replace the cladding as this would skew your investment appraisal. Similarly you  would have to consider structural loading and provision of walkways to allow safe access for cleaning and maintenance. 

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7 minutes ago, Peacenocchio said:

Good on the OP for making a suggestion but in summary....

1. Even if we install before March 2019 the feed in tariff rate is a miserly .0015p and thus would generate hardly any savings.

2. The local grid is unlikely to take all of our supply.

3. The roofs of our stands would need substantial strengthening to achieve the correct load bearing. Hitting payback due to cost.

4. Unlike factories working 5 or 6 days of the week manufacturing stuff, we don't even use a lot of electricity so the savings would be minimal.

 

It's not something that's viable.

 

 

The current export rate is 0.05p and has actually gone up from just under 0.04p. Panels could be installed on any roof of the ground for export however it would have to be under a G59 application where the energy company (Northern Powergrid in this instance) would have to agree to it all, they would probably accept it in all fairness due to the number of large commercial businesses in the area drawing of the grid in that area. It may cost the club a few thousand thought to get it passed.

 

It is a decent idea and is definitely something the club should have looked at long before now.

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1 hour ago, airborne_rat_of_s6 said:

D Taxi’s offices

And how big is this new business centre going to be? How much income would it generate?

 

I completely agree that the club has to explore new revenue streams but there has to be some value in it. Building a new stand that will sit 80% empty for 80% of matches so we can put in a business centre that raises £200k a year is not really viable.

 

I'm sure when the time comes to rebuild or move, non matchday income will be at the forefront of the planning but for now, we are working with what we have.

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On 27/08/2018 at 15:23, Hillsborough Mole said:

Ive never understood why we havent embraced solar panels on the roof of the stands as a way of generating revenue

 

A friend of mine generates around £80k a year in selling electricty back to the grid because his solar panels on his factory roof generate all the power he needs and more. His factory roof is nowhere near the size of just one of our stand roofs - Im sure we could generate enough electric at Hillsborough to give the club all the free electricity it needs an then generate revenue too.

 

 

You my man are a genius. 

 

I reckon we should relo to the nearest station to HS2 and then the cafe will always be busy and it'll be easy for away fans plus commercial revenue will increase as we can become a meeting / training location for organistions with sales teams located in the North and South of the country. 

 

 

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5 hours ago, King_Monkey said:

The current export rate is 0.05p and has actually gone up from just under 0.04p. Panels could be installed on any roof of the ground for export however it would have to be under a G59 application where the energy company (Northern Powergrid in this instance) would have to agree to it all, they would probably accept it in all fairness due to the number of large commercial businesses in the area drawing of the grid in that area. It may cost the club a few thousand thought to get it passed.

 

It is a decent idea and is definitely something the club should have looked at long before now.

That's the domestic tariff. For large scale commercial over 1 megawatt it's 0.0015.

 

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