flash Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Dawson Baker Lees Hutchinson Pudil Jones Bannan Reach FF Joao Fletcher Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bigblueowl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 19 minutes ago, malek said: Dawson Baker Hutchison Lees Thorniley Penney Reach Kirby Bannan Matias Fletcher Forestieri 533 works as long as the ref and the opposition don't notice. We could maybe sneak both Dawson and Wildsmith in net too. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, swfc1983 said: I think if we don’t it might be a genuine sign that he may have thrown the towel in. I agree. Him saying we need to get promoted this season otherwise we will be in serious trouble. If he honestly thinks we can with this squad and management than he is going to be very disappointed at the end of the season, he needs to dig deep and bring in improvements, simple as that, and imo that is only to ensure we down get relegated. Edited August 20, 2018 by WalthamOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Whilst reluctant to play three young players in the back four, and feel like it asks a lot of Lees to guide them...I do feel like it’s our current best option. Dawson Baker Lees Thorniley Penney Matias Bannan Hutchinson Reach/Boyd Forestieri Nuhiu subs: Wildsmith, Palmer, J.Lee, Pelupessy, Kirby, Preston, Fletcher im assuming Joao and Pudil won’t make it and hoping Reach does. back to basics, give FF as much freedom as possible. And Bannan for that matter. Never seen so much talent be limited so badly by tactics. Bannan can do more than just spray Hollywood balls about, and Hutchinson can do more than just tackle. He’s actually got an excellent passing range too. Use them better. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlyingOwl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 12 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: At the risk of being overtly negative, I can't see what people see in Thorniley... I haven't seen much of the lad so I can only assume that Brentford was an anomaly because he really really struggled and it did look like men against boys at times. On that (perhaps highly unfair) basis: Westwood Hutch Lees JvA Baker Pelupessy Reach Bannan Forestieri Matias Fletcher Get players like Hutch and van Aken who are willing to play those forward passes on so that when our spine does ball retention passes we can capitalise instead of just doing more ball retention. Reach provides a deep forward thrust (oo-er) and Baker doesn't seem to mind getting forward when he can. One defensive midfielder in Pelupessy, let Bannan boss that midfield creative role with runners from deep and a Forestieri that will drop back to receive the ball and find pockets of space. Matias provides a bit of movement and pace for everyone to aim for too. I still reckon three at the back is best for the players we've currently got at our disposal, but ffs let's throw some positivity and attacking intent into it. Thorniley wasn’t great against Brentford...but he’s also not exactly a model wing back. Not the quickest so wasn’t great getting forward and then, when he did, we were left open at the back. He’s much much better at centre half. No nonsense. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 16 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Won't see it. But I'd do this. Very keen to get another look at the left back. If it's all a bit much then I'd send Reach back there and give the Kirby lad a run in alongside Baz in front of Hutch. And yes...I know, I know. "How's Boyd got in there. He was terrible other night" etc etc I'm just keen to see what he can do in a role he knows, and we know, that he's a very good and proven player in. 2 at the back with 2 attacking full backs and 1 centre mid?! We would get mullered by the Eastbourne Rest Home XI playing that haha Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gypsyowl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Dawson Baker Lees Pudil Thorniley Hutch Bannan Reach Fessi Fletch Joao Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Wildsmith Palmer Lees Thorniley Penney Boyd Bannan Reach Matias Fletcher FF Joao on for Matias 60 Nuhiu for Fletcher 70 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, Minton said: 2 at the back with 2 attacking full backs and 1 centre mid?! We would get mullered by the Eastbourne Rest Home XI playing that haha That is when we're attacking Minton, as you well know! When we lose it we close ranks , drop behind the ball and go close down crazy on a half way line squeeze Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mike312 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) Assuming Reach and Joao are back I'd go: DAWSON PALMER LEES PUDIL REACH HUTCHINSON BANNAN MATIAS NUHIU JOAO FORESTIERI Subs; Wildsmith, Baker, Jones, Fletcher, Borukov, Nielsen, Penney. Forget ticka tacka football and passing it for hours amongst the back 6 only to launch it to one up front, get the ball forward quickly and get plenty of players round the ball. Edited August 20, 2018 by mike312 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, A12owl said: 3 out of 4 defenders with very little experience would be a worry for me. Slot one or two at most in with experienced player alongside to help them out and give some guidance and encouragement. Midfield and front looks good. There's a case to be made for Pudil at the back. But to be honest...I'd rather see Thorniley given a good run in the side. Baker and Palmer. throw a coin at the moment. Left back.... there's a case for Reach and someone else in midfield. But I'm just keen to see that lad again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Dawson Palmer Lees Thorniley Pudil Boyd Bannan Pessy Reach Fessi Dave Back to a traditional 4-4-2 because we dont have the players to play with wing backs. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: That is when we're attacking Minton, as you well know! When we lose it we close ranks , drop behind the ball and go close down crazy on a half way line squeeze At least you've thought about it, unlike many other folk. Leaves you very open to the fast counter for me though, particularly with the quality of our full backs Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WTF Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, mike312 said: Assuming Reach and Joao are back I'd go: DAWSON PALMER LEES PUDIL PENNEY HUTCHINSON BANNAN MATIAS NUHIU JOAO FORESTIERI Subs; Wildsmith, Baker, Jones, Fletcher, Borukov, Nielsen, the young lad who came on the other day who's name escapes me. Forget ticka tacka football and passing it for hours amongst the back 6 only to launch it to one up front, get the ball forward quickly and get plenty of players round the ball. Ok great shout, no more ticka tacka and also let's get the big man up there, great shout Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 westwood Lees Hutch Pudil Boyd Bannan Reach Fernando Joao Fletcher Matias. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just now, Minton said: At least you've thought about it, unlike many other folk. Leaves you very open to the fast counter for me though, particularly with the quality of our full backs Thats why only the midway press. Don't want to leave too much space behind for the arrowed ball in. We can even do a 3/4 drop and press it there if we want. Yes. There's scope for this side and no mistake! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 1 minute ago, Minton said: At least you've thought about it, unlike many other folk. Leaves you very open to the fast counter for me though, particularly with the quality of our full backs Don't confuse lack of experience with lack of quality. At least they have pace to turn around and run back into defensive formation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 (edited) 2 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: Thats why only the midway press. Don't want to leave too much space behind for the arrowed ball in. We can even do a 3/4 drop and press it there if we want. Yes. There's scope for this side and no mistake! Personally I'd be playing a little more on the break This is the dream team, I'd put Dave up top currently Edited August 20, 2018 by Minton 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 2 minutes ago, A12owl said: That's been my thought for weeks s36. Jo's doesn't read OT though.. Another reason for 442 is we dont have enough quality to play three centre halves . I dont trust Hutch ,, he is always liable to jump in and give a penalty away . I would rather have pudil at centre half with Lees , but that would mean playing Fox at left back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 A major issue for me on Sunday was the lack of protection our full backs got. Neither FF or Matias help enough. Old fashioned but when things aren't going well resort back to 4 4 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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