owlszone Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Just seen a video on twitter of the 3-0 victory over Arsenal back in 2015. It was such special night and could possibly just have been a fluke but we played with such passion and speed so many time after that. 7 of the starting 11 are still at the club. So what has happened? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rogers Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Negative tactics, decrease in team morale, players fed up of being injured, relying on kids and adding pressure on them to perform, not playing key players, losing Semedo, Loovens, Wallace, and Westwood as key influences in the squad, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 15 minutes ago, owlszone said: Just seen a video on twitter of the 3-0 victory over Arsenal back in 2015. It was such special night and could possibly just have been a fluke but we played with such passion and speed so many time after that. 7 of the starting 11 are still at the club. So what has happened? LOTS! Season ticket pricing Ticket pricing Membership pricing Exec box pricing Sponsorship pricing Off pitch issues Embargo Deflation and loss of confidence over time The whole team being out injured all at once Players stagnating Change of manager Chairman's angry rant on the official site last Christmas Eve Loss of Andy Rhodes Embargo and chairman saying he can't spend money on new players Players leaving George Hirst issue Sean Clare issue Keiran Westwood issue etc etc etc etc etc (longer list available) Ask yourself - if that was your place of work how would you feel? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheEnchanter Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 6 minutes ago, owlszone said: 7 of the starting 11 are still at the club. So what has happened? Stagnation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roscoe P. Coltrane Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 3 minutes ago, TheEnchanter said: Stagnation. No further forward than where we were three years ago But with many more issues surrounding the club Absolutely criminal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Out of the key players from that season ... loovens , Wallace, hunt have all moved on Hutchinson , lee and hooper are finished and just clog up wages westwood doesn’t get played and isn’t the keeper he once was tied in with the inept way the club has been run, no wonder we are now relegation cannon fodder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 You have to progress. Freshen the squad. Sell a few, bring in replacements What we have is the remnants of a once good side and a bunch of kids. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 I still cannot comprehend how much money we have spent on new players and somehow end up with a starting eleven that is worse than before. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 33 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: LOTS! Season ticket pricing Ticket pricing Membership pricing Exec box pricing Sponsorship pricing Off pitch issues Embargo Deflation and loss of confidence over time The whole team being out injured all at once Players stagnating Change of manager Chairman's angry rant on the official site last Christmas Eve Loss of Andy Rhodes Embargo and chairman saying he can't spend money on new players Players leaving George Hirst issue Sean Clare issue Keiran Westwood issue etc etc etc etc etc (longer list available) Ask yourself - if that was your place of work how would you feel? The whole set up from top to bottom is a farce right now with and our owner didn't seem capable of steering us out of it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MrTacoSWFC Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Another one of these threads... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 Can we have a little bit of perspective. I want all these posts crying that we are doomed saved so we can reference them in 1 week when we win 3 in a row at home and get Arsenal in the cup in the 3rd round at Hillsborough and we can replicate that night in 1 month. We have Millwall, Ipswich and Wolves reserves. Can we all calm down and cheer up a little bit honestly! It is not that bad. Brentford will hammer lots of teams this year and was always going to be tough. Move on to Wednesday and lets see. WAWAW. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minton Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 47 minutes ago, i used to be sc_owl said: I still cannot comprehend how much money we have spent on new players and somehow end up with a starting eleven that is worse than before. 17/18 - £13.7m on 6 players - top spenders were Boro again with £51m 16/17 - £9.8m on 12 players - top spenders were Villa with £76m 15/16 - £13.92m on 14 players - top spenders were Boro with £31m Not exactly mega money. Wages and no outgoing transfers are what have crippled us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted August 20, 2018 Share Posted August 20, 2018 56 minutes ago, Minton said: 17/18 - £13.7m on 6 players - top spenders were Boro again with £51m 16/17 - £9.8m on 12 players - top spenders were Villa with £76m 15/16 - £13.92m on 14 players - top spenders were Boro with £31m Not exactly mega money. Wages and no outgoing transfers are what have crippled us. Exactly this - we were short sighted and looked for instant success IMO. Instead of cashing in on a few of our successes, notable stories linking players such as westwood, Lees, Bannan, Lee, Jaoa, Fessi & Hirst over last three years we decided to keep them, not just keep them but pay them more too! Championship teams cannot afford to stockpile good players, you need to continually be finding the next Bannan, Lees or Fessi not being held over a barrel to re-sign to new improved contracts. If we look at teams that have spent in the season just gone, with exception of relegated teams they have all sold their best players in years gone by. Derby, Leeds, Forest.... A few years ago we seemed great at taking a punt on an unwanted player and reviving careers. What I don't get is why that stopped and when we moved to a new model of buying proven players. I can only go back to that short sighted part of wanting instant success. It hasnt happened and now we are stuck with players who arguably can still do a job this year, but are the jobs they are doing worthy of the salaries being spent. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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