Johnny Concrete Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 3 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said: With due respect, that we are at this point and how we have got to it, while continuing to be financially exploited to watch the most expensive football in the division, is why people are annoyed. Saying “once the fans accept it” sounds like asking people to just quietly ignore the failings of the rest of the club while accepting how bad it’s all become. And, of course, to shut up and put up whilst funding it. I get what you’re saying but it’s more complex than that. Today’s frustration isn’t just because we lost 2-0 to a very good side. One big problem we have is we have too many soft fans who will happily take the garbage and accept anything, never wanting to raise the bar. As much as it kills me to say this, do you honestly believe Leeds fans or them lot across the city, for example, would put up with a mess of this proportion? And on another note, in my opinion, the so called threats and abuse line was a complete over exaggerated defence tactic by Chansiri to deter away from his failings as owner of the club. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 36 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: I've said this before, but we have a sense of entitlement. We look down on Brentford because we're a 'big' club and they're not. And a lot of our fans just can't handle it when smaller clubs teach us a lesson. This is true,winds me up no end,this thing that this place has about us belittling everyone who doesn't get 20,000 fans at home,don't get it,never will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 The reality is anyone who thought we would get a result at Brentford are deluded beyond redemption. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 minute ago, Big Jack said: The reality is anyone who thought we would get a result at Brentford are deluded beyond redemption. Sorry to be pedantic but we did get a result at Brentford - just not the one we wanted! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 24 minutes ago, S6 Stroller said: I already have. In my opinion, the bloke's a footballing ignoramus and I find most stuff at the business end of the club, tacky, poorly-executed and/or ill-advised. "But he's put millions in..." Indeed he has but if that investment lacks an educated direction, what's the point? It's like me driving past S6 and chucking a grand out of the window every couple of months. Great Post that.that just about sums up what going wrong at S6. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 51 minutes ago, asteener1867 said: Our fans have handled that for years..........................Sodding hell!!!.... We have nigh on 2 decades of handling it...What the fans can't handle is loads of money been spaffed onj crap, while these "Smaller" clubs do it on a shoestring, year in year out...Its not the fans that assume "Sheffield Wednesday" should be better than these by doing mainly f.ook all..Its the folk that run the shambles Agreed. But I can't see that the weekly meltdowns achieve anything. Maybe we need to start acknowledging our diminished circumstances, recognising that teams like Brentford are beating us on merit and accepting that these sorts of games are the now the norm rather than lashing out against the players, the manager and the owner every time we fail to win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Roy Of The Roasters said: Agreed. But I can't see that the weekly meltdowns achieve anything. Maybe we need to start acknowledging our diminished circumstances, recognising that teams like Brentford are beating us on merit and accepting that these sorts of games are the now the norm rather than lashing out against the players, the manager and the owner every time we fail to win. How do you expect the fans to acknowledge our "diminished" circumstances when the Owner more or less says We have to go up this year? the prices haven't been diminished maybe if Chansiri had fronted up in the first place and simply said it's going to be s hard season etc etc our hopes would have been set at a reasonable level Edited August 19, 2018 by asteener1867 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 Fletcher needs to be starting. Our best centre forward, very smart player who with a run of games could hit some form We knew this would be a transition time for us so get ready for a long season, I just hope we have enough to stay up as I really can’t be fekked with another season in L1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roy Of The Roasters Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I'm not defending the owner. 99% of our problems ultimately originate from his poor decision making and lack of understanding of English football. Maybe I'm too much of a pragmatist but we are where we are and jumping on the outrage bus every weekend isn't going to change that. All I can really do is try and stay positive, keep my expectations modest and hope that Jos manages to grind out some results with meagre resources and that Chansiri has learned from his mistakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Frazzlebeak Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 I’m not defending anything at the club but we need to find away to stop in this division which hopefully will give us some breathing space to move forward. I can’t see it happening this season but we need to NOT make a bad situation worse. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 1 hour ago, Eastern said: We do have two winable games coming up. If we beat Millwall and Ipswich, panic may ease. We won't be any more that a mid table side this season, that I am sure of, but it is a bit early to panic for me. Millwall aren't a bad side, i think we will struggle to beat them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 59 minutes ago, Johnny Concrete said: One big problem we have is we have too many soft fans who will happily take the garbage and accept anything, never wanting to raise the bar. As much as it kills me to say this, do you honestly believe Leeds fans or them lot across the city, for example, would put up with a mess of this proportion? And on another note, in my opinion, the so called threats and abuse line was a complete over exaggerated defence tactic by Chansiri to deter away from his failings as owner of the club. Spot on regarding our fans accepting sh!te Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
full fathom five Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 56 minutes ago, Big Jack said: The reality is anyone who thought we would get a result at Brentford are deluded beyond redemption. Yep, i backed Brentford, easy money Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
parkfieldowl14 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 9 minutes ago, full fathom five said: Millwall aren't a bad side, i think we will struggle to beat them. Agreed.Unlucky not to make the Play-offs last season.Will be up there this season unlike ourselves where staying in the Championship will be considered success given our financial constaints. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BarnsleyOwl96 Posted August 19, 2018 Share Posted August 19, 2018 This is rubbish , to lose is one thing but to do it in the manner we did is embarrassing, today we were very very lucky not to lose 4/5-0 we were playing Brentford not Barcelona Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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