Brommers Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Not seen it mentioned in other threads but apologies if I've missed it. Given so much has been made of this, what does the teams fitness look like? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 1 minute ago, Brommers said: Not seen it mentioned in other threads but apologies if I've missed it. Given so much has been made of this, what does the teams fitness look like? 2 games in is the ideal time to judge this. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 (edited) It’s a good job Carlos isn’t here and we’ve done a proper preseason as a result otherwise we would be struggling against the likes of Hull and Wigan. We could easily have conceded 5 against both and Brentford will rip us apart. Edited August 12, 2018 by vulva 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 3 minutes ago, McRightSide said: 2 games in is the ideal time to judge this. Of cause you can. Did they keep going for 90 or were they flagging after about an hour? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owling Wolfe Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Loving all the negativity two games in, Owlstalk back to normal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Think fitness has improved since Jos come in. Fitness under CC last season was unprofessional to put it politely. Teams being at peak of fitness should be a given. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 4 minutes ago, Brommers said: Of cause you can. Did they keep going for 90 or were they flagging after about an hour? There were 2 guys out there flagging from the get go... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolsterstone Owl Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 They are fit but no fitter than either team they've played. In other words about right for a professional football team. I reckon Pudil will do a Loovens this season though. What was not professional yesterday was FF still messing about with his daughter on his shoulders literally up to two seconds of kick off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowls Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Yes the team kept going right to the end .. 2 games in and the question isn’t relevant .. but you got an answer. Now put the stirring spoon down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brommers Posted August 12, 2018 Author Share Posted August 12, 2018 21 minutes ago, dowls said: Yes the team kept going right to the end .. 2 games in and the question isn’t relevant .. but you got an answer. Now put the stirring spoon down. Of course it's relevant given how much has been made of our lack of fitness under CC. I'm not even going to comment on your last sentence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 55 minutes ago, Brommers said: Of cause you can. Did they keep going for 90 or were they flagging after about an hour? Thought Owls markedly fitter than Hull who slowed down and struggled late on 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 43 minutes ago, Bolsterstone Owl said: They are fit but no fitter than either team they've played. In other words about right for a professional football team. I reckon Pudil will do a Loovens this season though. What was not professional yesterday was FF still messing about with his daughter on his shoulders literally up to two seconds of kick off. Did not see FF doing that. Astonished. FF good in second half but a bit of showing off made me suspicious in current circumstances. Ironic he was in he team to see Fletcher's misses after the coming to work on a bike saga two years ago, I thought Wednesday were much fitter than Hull. Some of Hull defence and midfield seemed to slow down Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MARTY BOY Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 56 minutes ago, Owling Wolfe said: Loving all the negativity two games in, Owlstalk back to normal. What's your take on it then? Find some positives and I'll gladly listen. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 The defence has been ripped apart twice by 2 teams who will be bottom 6. We should have been 2 down in 5 minutes yesterday. People confuse negativity with honesty. When we play a decent side the reality will hit home. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 53 minutes ago, Bolsterstone Owl said: What was not professional yesterday was FF still messing about with his daughter on his shoulders literally up to two seconds of kick off. Lie... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bolsterstone Owl Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 8 minutes ago, slinger208b said: Lie... Now either you were not there or were not watching. Your neg rate says it all. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 Just now, Bolsterstone Owl said: Now either you were not there or were not watching. Your neg rate says it all. The "disagree" rate is irrelevant as people don't understand it's purpose. Maybe i wasn't watching... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stevelknievel Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 To be honest, I think the team’s level of fitness is what kept us in both games. In both games, it was Wigan and Hull which were tiring towards the end. We just need to play 120 mins every week and we’re sorted. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GMOwl72 Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 They hopefully have plenty of miles in their legs as the amount of space between our attack and midfield means someone covering an awful lot of ground! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hawksmore Posted August 12, 2018 Share Posted August 12, 2018 As others have said, without having the sports science data we simply cannot tell yet whether they are fitter at this stage, maybe Jos will show us all the blood lactate readings though! Something that is relevant and we can 'see' for ourselves is the players body composition, which is usually a strong indicator to fitness levels too when it comes to power/endurance sports. Reach, FF and fletch all lifted their shirts, i'd say only Fletch looked close to the numbers in this paper: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/19847685 Another thing, Reach was gulping water down from 20 minutes in, FF was asking a crowd member for her water around 75 mins and Fletch was looking at the bench for 10 minutes before he went off (which shows his endurance still needs work), those are all just things i picked up from watching specific players and probably something Jos and his team should be keeping an eye on . Overall, i think some of the players will be really fit, others probably not as fit as they should be. But that's pretty normal to be honest. The system we play does not require high intensity pressing, so fitness should never be an issue really. Having watched Leeds, it's when we play theose scrotes that we'll see what our own squads fitness is like. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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