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If players are ‘scared’ to play football then they are clearly in the wrong profession. Especially in front of a fan base like ours who are the World Champions at apathy.

 

Imagine how some of these scared players would go on at Millwall, West Ham, Leeds etc. They would bobbar their britches in the warm up. 

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28 minutes ago, hawksmore said:

Barring 2 misplaced passes he really wasn’t as bad as people are making out. 

 

But i do think he’s probably bricking it as he knows the fans are on his back. 

 

Hes never been a left left wing back. Poor from Jos playing him there. 

Agreed ,bannan did some bad passes also, but falk  banging on about fox 

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17 minutes ago, vulva said:

If players are ‘scared’ to play football then they are clearly in the wrong profession. Especially in front of a fan base like ours who are the World Champions at apathy.

 

Imagine how some of these scared players would go on at Millwall, West Ham, Leeds etc. They would bobbar their britches in the warm up. 

This squad are mentally as well as physically very weak any team that comes prepared to battle will get a result against us. 

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He was poor today but some of the abuse he’s getting is shocking.

 

He was injured before “that” pass which may just have contributed.

 

I agree he’s not great and shouldn’t be a first choice but he’s not bad as back up, unfortunately another case of being the latest scapegoat.

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15 minutes ago, lairyowl said:

Agreed ,bannan did some bad passes also, but falk  banging on about fox 

Bannan made some big schoolboy errors today and Reach was wasteful in possession too.

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I feel bad for him, but he really is dreadful.

Charlton fans told us exactly what he was like (and playing in League One at that), just another example of our terrible recruitment/scouting

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1 hour ago, wilyfox said:

Whilst they were fixing his back, I ran off with one of his vertebrae.

 

You're welcome.  

 

 

Give it Reach. He's crying out for a backbone. 

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1 hour ago, northeastowl said:

Dear oh dear...

 

Thoughts?

Thoughts are same as last year, not good enough

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1 hour ago, northeastowl said:

Dear oh dear...

 

Thoughts?

Looks like a rabbit in headlights every time he as the ball.

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:

No need for any hate on Fox really

Just swap him out for Thorniley

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How do you fairly assess a complete road crash of a player. Its not hatred, its just mind blowing how this guy earns a wage as a professional footballer. 

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A player we should have never have signed, very poor and nowhere near the standard needed for this level.

 

Can’t believe Charlton has us pay good money for him AND Rhoys Wiggins.....

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Needs a spell on the bench to be coached and evaluated, not any improvement on last year and after today I think Thorniley was brill and has just taken his place. Real shame if he is put on scrap heap. Still young and hopefully someone can get the best out of him. 

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Imagine how bad Urby must have been for Fox to keep him out of the team 

 

WTF:

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13 minutes ago, CLswfc said:

How do you fairly assess a complete road crash of a player. Its not hatred, its just mind blowing how this guy earns a wage as a professional footballer. 

 

 

If a player isnt quite good enough its not his fault he was bought and is played

 

 

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8 minutes ago, tarn owl said:

Needs a spell on the bench to be coached and evaluated, not any improvement on last year and after today I think Thorniley was brill and has just taken his place. Real shame if he is put on scrap heap. Still young and hopefully someone can get the best out of him. 

His confidence is already shot. The guy is just not up to the riggers of a professional footballer. Maybe harsh but true. 

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Just now, @owlstalk said:

 

 

If a player isnt quite good enough its not his fault he was bought and is played

 

 

Not necessilly blaming the lad, but it doesn't detract from the fact the guy is stealing a wage from us as pro footballer and we as a club are suffering through it. I just cannot understand how 2  yes 2 managers can see something in him. Beggars belief.

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1 minute ago, CLswfc said:

His confidence is already shot. The guy is just not up to the riggers of a professional footballer. Maybe harsh but true. 

Sorry but disagree about not a professional footballer. He is 24 and come up the ranks to the championship. I think he will be beaten to a place in the Wednesday team by reach or thorniley. But he would do a good job at league 1 and at 24 he has time to develop. We need to try and develop talent rather than just scrapping players at first signs of issues. He looks not confident, but pelupessy was worse today and I think he will develop just fine with time! Young lads need the right coaching and support! Not ironic cheers when taken off! He’s a Wednesday player. Honestly. 

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45 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 

 

If a player isnt quite good enough its not his fault he was bought and is played

 

 

 

Sorry but you can only take your relentless positivity so far. In the sense of your statement above, you could say, if a manager is not quite good enough then it is not his fault he was signed and contracted by the owner to run the team, yet you ridiculed Carlos for months!

 

Fox will have his performance assessed just like anyone else in the team, yes there is pressure on him as his past performances have dictated and once again it is difficult not to draw the conclusion that we were better without him than with him. Of course we can be positive about how Thorniley played in his place but then we go to the manager who picked Fox ahead of him, or should we then go straight to the owner who chose the manager who makes these decisions......  

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Said it all when Charlton fans were laughing at us for signing him. Wasn't good enough for them in League One, let alone us in the Championship.

 

Cost almost 1 million am I right? 

 

Incompetency throughout the club.

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