Hookowl Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Well this thread's certainly swung one way then the other and then gone off on mad tangents What do you expect .....................................................first games not till Saturday 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 Just now, Hookowl said: What do you expect .....................................................first games not till Saturday Can't come quick enough Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: Can't come quick enough Bet you've used that line a few times young man ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
IstillhateSteveBould Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 38 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: If you'd like to explain how the rationale is wrong, I'm all ears mate. If I've got it that wrong, it shouldn't take more than a couple of lines of explanation to the contrary. Well for starters, you've given 2 examples of repeat offenders. How that relates to this case I'm not sure. I get that you're trying to make the point that "heat of the moment" is not adequate justification (and in the examples you've given, it certainly isn't!). But I believe ANYONE is capable of blurting something out in a state of retaliatory rage. The same way I believe ANYONE can react violently in certain circumstances. Doesn't make them inherently violent people. Just an act that is totally out of character due to an intense emotional moment. Certainly not saying that makes them guiltless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HootHoot Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 If FF did say something racist, would Joao really be all friendly with him? They seem all friendly at the bbq Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Bulgaria Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 (edited) 28 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Not sure does bear a resemblance though. Aye, the poor bugger that marries either of em would have a lifespan shorter than the dresses they would wear. Edited July 31, 2018 by Bulgaria Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 39 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Are you sure about that? I think there are hundreds of underage vulnerable white girls in Rotherham, Newcastle, Rochdale, Oxford, etc, etc who may disagree with you! where’s their ‘specific protection law’? Racism in ALL forms is abhorrent but a one way street it isn’t! I don't think they were chosen coz they were white it was because they were vulnerable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: Bet you've used that line a few times young man ? My mrs says quite the opposite of my performance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted July 31, 2018 Author Share Posted July 31, 2018 FOOTBALL HEAVEN ON NOW https://www.bbc.co.uk/radio/player/bbc_radio_sheffield Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Quite simple in my opinion. IF a wednesday player made racist comments he should have the book thrown at him by the police AND the fa , regardless who the player is. IF the police find there is no evidence of any wrongdoing , then whoever it was from Mansfield Town who reported it to the police ,should be charged with wasting police time. Either way , im sure all will come out in the wesh before too long. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nortonwoodseatslives Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 Not directly related to this thread - but an anecdote that may give some food for thought. A few years ago I was a teacher at a Special School in Manchester with students of a very mixed ethnic background. The head at the time was a WASP from Belfast who had a marked Northern Irish accent. On this particular day he was having a problem with a lad whose parents were from the West Indies. At a certain point in the confrontation, the student, who had a fairly low I.Q. (but was a reasonable footballer), lost it totally and shouted out in a loud cry of frustration "**** off - you flipping Irish Paki". Based on what has been said in this thread, I wonder what the response should have been then and what it should be today - some 30 years later, bearing in mind that he was aware of the ridiculous nature of the outburst, but had just lost it' . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, torres said: This is how an adult reacts to name calling. Racism isn't name calling ffs. While ever people have this mindset, things will never change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 5 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: Quite simple in my opinion. IF a wednesday player made racist comments he should have the book thrown at him by the police AND the fa , regardless who the player is. IF the police find there is no evidence of any wrongdoing , then whoever it was from Mansfield Town who reported it to the police ,should be charged with wasting police time. Either way , im sure all will come out in the wesh before too long. If they don't find any evidence that doesn't mean that no offence was committed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Watson said: If they don't find any evidence that doesn't mean that no offence was committed. Yes they'd need evidence that he'd deliberately made a false accusation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Watson said: If they don't find any evidence that doesn't mean that no offence was committed. Be virtually impossible to find "evidence" full stop in this matter. Fwiw..if there's no case to answer..and I was the accused, I certainly wouldn't appreciate your post..even though it's factually correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shezza Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 hour ago, dumboldowl said: Did I suggest that they should ? With you complaining about their slowness it was at least easy to think according to those lines, yes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 2 minutes ago, Costello 77 said: Be virtually impossible to find "evidence" full stop in this matter. Fwiw..if there's no case to answer..and I was the accused, I certainly wouldn't appreciate your post..even though it's factually correct. My post wasn't meant to sound 'nasty'. Further, at court, you are found guilty or not guilty, innocence doesn't come into it. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 23 minutes ago, Watson said: I don't think they were chosen coz they were white it was because they were vulnerable. Please refer to the excellent and harrowing BBC drama “Three Girls” where it portrays that their vulnerability made it easy but the fact that they were “white” gave them “badge of honour” status to the Rochdale predators! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 1 minute ago, Watson said: My post wasn't meant to sound 'nasty'. Further, at court, you are found guilty or not guilty, innocence doesn't come into it. There's no point in the justice system then. Not guilty means not guilty and guilty means guilty. It's wrong to leave a cloud over anybody after a judgement. The legal system is all we've got although it's not perfect. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted July 31, 2018 Share Posted July 31, 2018 10 minutes ago, casbahowl said: Please refer to the excellent and harrowing BBC drama “Three Girls” where it portrays that their vulnerability made it easy but the fact that they were “white” gave them “badge of honour” status to the Rochdale predators! So no none white girls were involved at all? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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