Popular Post RyanSWFC Posted July 29, 2018 Popular Post Share Posted July 29, 2018 (edited) As most of you seemed to find these graphs useful last season, I thought I might as well do the same this campaign. I will be adding a new line to the graphs for this season and posting updated versions game by game throughout the season in this thread. As we experience the highs and lows of the Championship season and many of us get carried away after each and every result, it is easy to forget the bigger picture of the season as a whole (and also consider how we are doing compared to previous seasons). I hope that this thread, like last season (for the most part), can bring a bit of sanity to OwlsTalk and allow us not to over react if we have a few winless matches, nor think the Championship trophy has our name on it if we put consecutive wins together in September. Below are the graphs which show our progress in the full seasons under Chansiri's ownership, and also how we did in all of the seasons since getting promoted from League One. The straight lines are based upon the average (mean) number of points needed for the particular achievement over the last 5 seasons. For example, the 3rd placed teams in the Championship over the last 5 seasons achieved points of 88, 85, 89, 86, 85 - so on average achieving 86.6 points (1.8841 points per game) would be enough to finish above the 3rd placed team and hence achieve automatic promotion (lower than the widely-accepted value of 90 points for a top 2 finish). If you have any feedback or suggestions about the graphs, feel free to comment and I will do my best to improve them. I appreciate that the one with all our seasons since promotion is a little messy. Let's hope for a nice steep graph this year, UTO. Edited July 29, 2018 by RyanSWFC 5 19 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kendoddsdadsdogsdead Posted July 29, 2018 Share Posted July 29, 2018 Cheers Ryan, and I hope I speak for a lot of posters, who I'm sure, like myself want to thank you for continuing with the graphs. Keep up the good work fella 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rev Owl Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Hi Ryan. Looking forward to seeing this. Thanks for taking the time to put it together. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Hi Ryan, Nice to see your new thread. Here are my New offerings. In my comparison Column I am comparing our 4th place finish with this seasons results as its promotion that we are after. In the bar chart you have the last two seasons and this with Trendlines to indicate Championship form, Playoff Form and Relegation form. I did think about adding a column for attendances but decided against it. 2016/17 Season 2017/18 Season 2018/19 Season Comparison with 16/17 Games W/L/D H OWLS OPP F A G. Diff Points Position W/L/D H OWLS OPP F A G Diff Points Position W/L/D H OWLS OPP F A G Diff Points Position Position V 2016/17 Pt Diff to 16/17 A A A 1 W AVI 1 - 0 1 0 1 3 9 L PNE 0 - 1 0 1 -1 0 22 WIG - 2 D NOR 0 - 0 1 0 1 4 6 D QPR 1 - 1 1 2 -1 1 17 HUL - 3 L BUR 1 - 3 2 3 -1 4 13 D SUN 1 - 1 2 3 -1 2 21 BRE - 4 L LEE 0 - 2 2 5 -3 4 20 W FUL 1 - 0 3 3 0 5 13 MIL - 5 D BTD 1 - 1 3 6 -3 5 19 D BUR 1 - 1 4 4 0 6 16 IPS - 6 W WIG 2 - 1 5 7 -2 8 16 W NFO 3 - 1 7 5 2 9 10 - 7 W BCY 3 - 2 8 9 -1 11 9 W BTD 2 - 1 9 6 3 12 6 - 8 L BGM 1 - 2 9 11 -2 11 12 D CAR 1 - 1 10 7 3 13 9 - 9 W NFO 2 - 1 11 12 -1 14 11 L SU 2 - 4 12 11 1 13 10 - 10 W BBR 1 - 0 12 12 0 17 7 L BMG 0 - 1 12 12 0 13 14 - 11 L BTN 1 - 2 13 14 -1 17 9 W LEE 3 - 0 15 12 3 16 12 - 12 W HUD 1 - 0 14 14 0 20 7 L BOL 1 - 2 16 14 2 16 12 - 13 D CAR 1 - 1 15 15 0 21 6 L DER 0 - 2 16 16 0 16 16 - 14 W QPR 1 - 0 16 15 1 24 5 D BSY 1 - 1 17 17 0 17 14 - 15 L DBY 0 - 2 16 17 -1 24 7 W MIL 2 - 1 19 18 1 20 14 - 16 L IPS 1 - 2 17 19 -2 24 10 W AVI 2 - 1 21 19 2 23 11 - 17 D FUL 1 - 1 18 20 -2 25 9 D BCY 1 - 1 22 20 2 24 9 - 18 W WVS 2 - 0 20 20 0 28 7 D IPS 2 - 2 24 22 2 25 11 - 19 W PNE 2 - 1 22 21 1 31 6 D RED 0 - 0 24 22 2 26 11 - 20 L RED 1 - 2 23 23 0 31 6 D HUL 2 - 2 26 24 2 27 12 - 21 W BLY 2 - 0 25 23 2 34 6 L NOR 1 - 3 27 27 0 27 15 - 22 W RTM 1 - 0 26 23 3 37 6 L WVS 0 - 1 27 28 -1 27 15 - 23 W NEW 1 - 0 27 23 4 40 4 L MID 1 - 2 28 30 -2 27 15 - 24 D PNE 1 - 1 28 24 4 41 6 W NFO 3 - 0 31 30 1 30 14 - 25 D WVS 0 - 0 28 24 4 42 6 L BTD 0 - 2 31 32 -1 30 16 - 26 W HUD 2 - 0 30 24 6 45 6 L BUR 0 - 3 31 35 -4 30 16 - 27 L BTN 1 - 2 31 26 5 45 6 D SU 0 - 0 31 35 -4 31 17 - 28 D BCY 2 - 2 33 28 5 46 7 D CAR 0 - 0 31 35 -4 32 17 - 29 W WIG 1 - 0 34 28 6 49 6 D MID 0 - 0 31 35 -4 33 16 - 30 W BMG 3 - 0 37 28 9 52 6 L BMG 1 - 3 32 38 -6 33 17 - 31 W BBR 2 - 1 39 29 10 55 6 D BSY 1 - 1 33 39 -6 34 17 - 32 W NFO 2 - 1 41 30 11 58 6 W DER 2 - 0 35 39 -4 37 15 - 33 L BTD 1 - 2 42 32 10 58 6 L MIL 1 - 2 36 41 -5 37 16 - 34 L LEE 0 - 1 42 33 9 58 6 L AVI 2 - 4 38 45 -7 37 17 - 35 W NOR 5 - 1 47 34 13 61 6 L BCY 0 - 4 38 49 -11 37 17 - 36 D BTN 1 - 1 48 35 13 62 6 L IPS 1 - 2 39 51 -12 37 17 - 37 L AVI 0 - 2 48 37 11 62 6 D BOL 1 - 1 40 52 -12 38 17 - 38 L RED 0 - 2 48 39 9 62 6 W LEE 2 - 1 42 53 -11 41 17 - 39 D BSY 1 - 1 49 40 9 63 6 W PNE 4 - 1 46 54 -8 44 17 - 40 W RTM 2 - 0 51 40 11 66 6 W SUN 3 - 1 49 55 -6 47 16 - 41 W NEW 2 - 1 53 41 12 69 6 L FUL 0 - 1 49 56 -7 47 16 - 42 W CAR 1 - 0 54 41 13 72 6 L QPR 2 - 4 51 60 -9 47 17 - 43 W QPR 2 - 1 56 42 14 75 5 W HUL 1 - 0 52 60 -8 50 16 - 44 W DBY 2 - 1 58 43 15 78 4 W RED 3 - 0 55 60 -5 53 15 - 45 W IPS 1 - 0 59 43 16 81 4 D WVS 0 - 0 55 60 -5 54 16 - 46 L FUL 1 - 2 60 45 15 81 4 W NOR 5 - 1 60 61 -1 57 15 - 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Flat Owl Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 (edited) Sorry Mark but I do find Ryan's worms easier to digest.... And if Jos can continue where he left off from game 36 last year, we will be fine... Edited July 30, 2018 by Flat Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 18 minutes ago, Flat Owl said: Sorry Mark but I do find Ryan's worms easier to digest. I love Ryan's worms too. An Owlstalk treasure. 2 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ethel The Tree Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 17 minutes ago, Flat Owl said: Sorry Mark but I do find Ryan's worms easier to digest.... I think there's room on this thread for both Although Ryan's simplified graph offers the easiest comparison (imo) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 3 minutes ago, Ethel The Tree said: Although Ryan's simplified graph offers the easiest comparison (imo) I agree Ethel. Mine shows the data such as who we played scores results etc. for those interested. For the quickest view then Ryan's graphs are King. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted July 30, 2018 Share Posted July 30, 2018 Great stuff Ryan. Wouldnt be too too optimistic about bringing sanity to Owlstalk. Try solving Brexit first, then the Middle East, and if you crack them you can try to placate us lot at 5.30 on a Saturday after a home nil-one to Hull. Thanks. And to you Mark as well. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RyanSWFC Posted August 4, 2018 Author Share Posted August 4, 2018 Long way to go. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 The table compares this season with the 2016/17 season where we finished 4th. The chart has yet to register anything as we lost. What was encouraging yesterday was that we can score. The defensive performance was less than ideal to put it mildly. Stupid passes and generally carelessness with the ball cost us. Let's hope for better next week when the transfer window will be closed and we see who we have to work with. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 5, 2018 Share Posted August 5, 2018 I love a stat and graph but can I just point out that finishing with more points than the team who came 3rd does not get you automatic promotion. It gets you 3rd place. If you are looking at historical seasons, you need more points than the 2nd place team, therefore finishing above them and pushing them down to 3rd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Only 1 game, but we moved up the table. Onwards and upwards Come on you FotherMuckers, let's do this. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 On 05/08/2018 at 13:05, londonowl said: I love a stat and graph but can I just point out that finishing with more points than the team who came 3rd does not get you automatic promotion. It gets you 3rd place. If you finish with more points than the team who comes third, then you're in second or first. It's not rocket science. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1948 Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 38 minutes ago, MAL said: Only 1 game, but we moved up the table. Onwards and upwards Come on you FotherMuckers, let's do this. This is so good. Lovely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, mark1948 said: This is so good. Lovely. Cheers pal It's took me ages to get it right. I think it's gonnna be right anyway. Someone will tell me if not 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
londonowl Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 4 hours ago, punkskaphil said: If you finish with more points than the team who comes third, then you're in second or first. It's not rocket science. If you finish with more points than the team who comes third this season, you will finish first or second. If you are looking at previous seasons as this graph is, if you hypothetically finished last season with more points than the team who came 3rd last year, they would have been 4th so you would have been 1st, 2nd or 3rd. i wouldn’t bother calling NASA. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MAL Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 Some teams have played a game more, so will have gone above us. Some teams have played a game more, so you can probarbly work the next bit out for yourselves 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
punkskaphil Posted August 7, 2018 Share Posted August 7, 2018 2 hours ago, londonowl said: If you finish with more points than the team who comes third this season, you will finish first or second. If you are looking at previous seasons as this graph is, if you hypothetically finished last season with more points than the team who came 3rd last year, they would have been 4th so you would have been 1st, 2nd or 3rd. i wouldn’t bother calling NASA. I should've put an ellipsis at the end, shouldn’t I? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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