@owlstalk Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 minutes ago, Trawdenowl said: I feel the same as most on here and even trying to take all of the emotion out of the situation I just cannot see how this makes any business sense whatsoever. Like many on here I will not be renewing mine and my stepsons memberships, that is £100 less income for club against last year ( then multiply that by everyone else who will not be doing the same) . Then due to the fact that I will now have to pay £5 more per game I may end up attending less games, therefore more lost revenue for the club both in ticket fees and money spent on food drink etc.Someone please help me make sense of this decision. It really is a strange one to me It's like there's some need to pay off a massive bill or something or avoid FFP but instead of revolutionary exciting new products that fans would definitely want, instead we get a massive price hike on a membership with the chairman seemingly convinced that the discount vouchers for the megastore will be enough to warrant a membership (when you can't use the vouchers on the kit or sale items which in itself beggars belief) Right headscratcher Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BARMYARMY2010 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Just now, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: Stupid fool Why thank you !! 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Russy Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 hour ago, e6owl said: Last season there were a fair few matches that members could get tickets to - off the top of my head Fulham, Millwall, Norwich, QPR, Leeds, Reading, Ipswich, Cardiff, Sunderland, Hull - A lot of them either dead rubber games or midweeks but membership at least gave you something. A lot of these also went to general sale, making membership even more pointless. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatesy2001 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Long distance observer of OT and occasional poster. To put my comments into context, I live abroad and buy a membership annually: 1. So I can get tickets when at short supply 2. To put some money back into the club despite knowing I will only get to 5-10% matches (max) 3. To follow tradition of always having had a season ticket or membership since the age of 5 years old (unbroken and dictated by where I am based / work commitments etc). The £90 is obviously ridiculous and I would estimate that < 5% of last seasons members will renew. This cannot be a business decision as the revenue stream will almost die and people will not pay the on gate prices for all but the big matches (where a £5 saving is neither here nor there). My thoughts on this are that we risk ostracising junior fans and the pipeline of those who may purchase season tickets in future years but could only afford membership iin previous seasons. This is SUCH as short term measure that something else has to be the driver behind the decision.... My theory is that we will see ~XX thousand (lets say 49,000 per wiki for global employees) new members from Thailand who all receive the memberships as part of their work benefits package...all will end in the email address @thaiunionfoods.com and all will make a bulk payment in the next few weeks to cover the membership fees. This could then generate £4.4m in revenues overnight solving our FFP issues. If something like the above isn't happening then I'll have a bit of whatever Chansiri is smoking as £90 is wild, more so than any other move he has made proportionally (Corporate Boxes excluded). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 1 minute ago, Oatesy2001 said: Long distance observer of OT and occasional poster. To put my comments into context, I live abroad and buy a membership annually: 1. So I can get tickets when at short supply 2. To put some money back into the club despite knowing I will only get to 5-10% matches (max) 3. To follow tradition of always having had a season ticket or membership since the age of 5 years old (unbroken and dictated by where I am based / work commitments etc). The £90 is obviously ridiculous and I would estimate that < 5% of last seasons members will renew. This cannot be a business decision as the revenue stream will almost die and people will not pay the on gate prices for all but the big matches (where a £5 saving is neither here nor there). My thoughts on this are that we risk ostracising junior fans and the pipeline of those who may purchase season tickets in future years but could only afford membership iin previous seasons. This is SUCH as short term measure that something else has to be the driver behind the decision.... My theory is that we will see ~XX thousand (lets say 49,000 per wiki for global employees) new members from Thailand who all receive the memberships as part of their work benefits package...all will end in the email address @thaiunionfoods.com and all will make a bulk payment in the next few weeks to cover the membership fees. This could then generate £4.4m in revenues overnight solving our FFP issues. If something like the above isn't happening then I'll have a bit of whatever Chansiri is smoking as £90 is wild, more so than any other move he has made proportionally (Corporate Boxes excluded). If that was the case - they'd just do an Overseas Membership at a different price Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oatesy2001 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: If that was the case - they'd just do an Overseas Membership at a different price Transaction would have to be at arms length to pass through the accounts / audit and FFP guidelines. Not that my suggestion would get through FFP anyway...i have the feeling there is more to this move than meets the eye. All will be reveled in the accounts for this season int he future! Edited July 24, 2018 by Oatesy2001 spelling! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oh_weds_we_love_you Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 £90 an adult and £40 a child... I don't get the benefit of being a member, though I buy one for me and my 2 year old son as a way of making a contribution - a donation if you like - to our club. I also like having a card for the wee boy so when he grows up he knows he's been an Owls member all his life (in the hope he turns to Wednesday instead of the Glasgow clubs!). All I'll be doing this year is renewing his and won't bother with mine - I'm not donating £130! So, sadly it'll mean the club gets £40 "membership" this season from me, as where last season it was £75. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Since school I've never been able to get my head around % increases every time I see it's 80% I think the price has gone down 20% Think I am numerically dyslexic Smashed my maths exam teacher just after Reb’s bird too amazingly Edited July 24, 2018 by Rebowl Yell 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Any company raising prices by 80% in one year for basically the same product deserved all it gets. SWFC are moving into dangerous territory and i fear we could suffer long term with this type of decisions through disengagement with the fan base. Having said that, it is DC's club and he must have thought this through and clearly wants to price POTG fans out. Membership was a half-way house solution for many fans unwilling or unable to commit to a ST. I expect that membership numbers will half as a result of this initiative. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 2 hours ago, s73owl said: That's up there in my best posts I've read on owlstalk, proper random and made me laugh like f**k It’s only funny until you realise he is Syrian and his wife is called Shed 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 3 minutes ago, Animis said: Any company raising prices by 80% in one year for basically the same product deserved all it gets. SWFC are moving into dangerous territory and i fear we could suffer long term with this type of decisions through disengagement with the fan base. Having said that, it is DC's club and he must have thought this through and clearly wants to price POTG fans out. Membership was a half-way house solution for many fans unwilling or unable to commit to a ST. I expect that membership numbers will half as a result of this initiative. It absolutely ISN'T DC's club, it never will be. The club belongs to every single fan whos ever paid to go through a turnstile - collectively - without whom our club would cease to exist. Chairmen, managers and players come and go - it is our fans collective that has kept the club afloat for 150 years. And not someone whos throwing good money after bad - then billing the fans for his incompetence. Makes my f*****g blood boil Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRUCE LEE Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Absolutely bonkers pricing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s73owl Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Be interesting to see what the average gates are this season as compared to last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 5 hours ago, nilsson said: And a Rhodes t shirt Which bizarrely has the old logo on it, we support a strange old club, it made more sense when Allen was in charge........sort of. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 19 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: It absolutely ISN'T DC's club, it never will be. The club belongs to every single fan whos ever paid to go through a turnstile - collectively - without whom our club would cease to exist. Chairmen, managers and players come and go - it is our fans collective that has kept the club afloat for 150 years. And not someone whos throwing good money after bad - then billing the fans for his incompetence. Makes my f*****g blood boil That's a romantic view - I doubt DC shares your assessment. I'd like to say all football's going this way, but it appears our pricing across the board is higher than most PL clubs and all but one Championship club. Not sure what his long game is here as we will lose fans as a result of this. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 51 minutes ago, Oatesy2001 said: Long distance observer of OT and occasional poster. To put my comments into context, I live abroad and buy a membership annually: 1. So I can get tickets when at short supply 2. To put some money back into the club despite knowing I will only get to 5-10% matches (max) 3. To follow tradition of always having had a season ticket or membership since the age of 5 years old (unbroken and dictated by where I am based / work commitments etc). The £90 is obviously ridiculous and I would estimate that < 5% of last seasons members will renew. This cannot be a business decision as the revenue stream will almost die and people will not pay the on gate prices for all but the big matches (where a £5 saving is neither here nor there). My thoughts on this are that we risk ostracising junior fans and the pipeline of those who may purchase season tickets in future years but could only afford membership iin previous seasons. This is SUCH as short term measure that something else has to be the driver behind the decision.... My theory is that we will see ~XX thousand (lets say 49,000 per wiki for global employees) new members from Thailand who all receive the memberships as part of their work benefits package...all will end in the email address @thaiunionfoods.com and all will make a bulk payment in the next few weeks to cover the membership fees. This could then generate £4.4m in revenues overnight solving our FFP issues. If something like the above isn't happening then I'll have a bit of whatever Chansiri is smoking as £90 is wild, more so than any other move he has made proportionally (Corporate Boxes excluded). That won't be happening. It is what it is. Just another attempt to reinvent the wheel and a misjudgement by the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RUMBELOWS91 Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 35 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: It absolutely ISN'T DC's club, it never will be. The club belongs to every single fan whos ever paid to go through a turnstile - collectively - without whom our club would cease to exist. Chairmen, managers and players come and go - it is our fans collective that has kept the club afloat for 150 years. And not someone whos throwing good money after bad - then billing the fans for his incompetence. Makes my f*****g blood boil The 'club' ( in its most basic meaning) may not belong to Chansiri, but unfortunately the business does. The 'club' will always survive, but i do worry for the business if things go on the way they are. I'd be surprised if Katriene Miere was in full agreement on this one. Edited July 24, 2018 by RUMBELOWS91 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
northeastowl Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 What’s really annoying me is the club just don’t listen to the fans. I might in a lucky enough position to afford a season ticket plus travel down every game (which I have done for the last 3 years) however a change of job this buying a season ticket was rendered pointless as I would miss pretty much all Saturday games unless I put a holiday in at work. Plan was to buy a membership and do about 10 games. Now with the membership and ticket prices announced im not going to bother at all. The club really don’t care about the fans one bit. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
supersiggi Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 (edited) 1 hour ago, Oatesy2001 said: Long distance observer of OT and occasional poster. To put my comments into context, I live abroad and buy a membership annually: 1. So I can get tickets when at short supply 2. To put some money back into the club despite knowing I will only get to 5-10% matches (max) 3. To follow tradition of always having had a season ticket or membership since the age of 5 years old (unbroken and dictated by where I am based / work commitments etc). The £90 is obviously ridiculous and I would estimate that < 5% of last seasons members will renew. This cannot be a business decision as the revenue stream will almost die and people will not pay the on gate prices for all but the big matches (where a £5 saving is neither here nor there). My thoughts on this are that we risk ostracising junior fans and the pipeline of those who may purchase season tickets in future years but could only afford membership iin previous seasons. This is SUCH as short term measure that something else has to be the driver behind the decision.... My theory is that we will see ~XX thousand (lets say 49,000 per wiki for global employees) new members from Thailand who all receive the memberships as part of their work benefits package...all will end in the email address @thaiunionfoods.com and all will make a bulk payment in the next few weeks to cover the membership fees. This could then generate £4.4m in revenues overnight solving our FFP issues. If something like the above isn't happening then I'll have a bit of whatever Chansiri is smoking as £90 is wild, more so than any other move he has made proportionally (Corporate Boxes excluded). I suggested similar to my pal. I can only presume it's a method for him to inject money into the club under the radar, then when UK based numbers are low he can backtrack "after feedback from our much valued fan base...." reduce them to £50. Any poor sod that has bought one for £90 can have as many Jordan Rhodes subbuteo t shirts as they can carry as recompense. Edited July 24, 2018 by supersiggi 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lincolnowl Posted July 24, 2018 Share Posted July 24, 2018 Fans being asked to pay for DCs mistakes. Disgusting pricing and indefensible. The more you look at it, the more bemusing it all gets. No plan in place at all. Throw the dice in the air and see where it lands. I also dont believe DC has the money we all wish he had. Almost zero invedtment in a creaking ground that is currently restricted capacity. It’s a poor facility still suffering from neglect. There’s no FFP restrictions on investments in this area. Despite some training ground developments, we are still way behind our peers in terms of facility. No plans to move us away, 3.5 years after taking over. Again, FFP isn’t an issue here. Scandalous commercial activity, bordering on suicidal. An aging squad full of players nobody else wants. A ridiculous recruitment policy. Enjoy your football. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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