swfcGibbo Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Interesting comments from Jos on both Abdi & Jones. Unless I'm reading between the lines far too much it looks as though neither feature in Jos' plans. Let's hope we can move them on to a new home. First pre-season friendly you would imagine two seasoned pros would be given minutes if fully fit and within the managers long-term plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mancowl08 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Yes, I wondered the same, let’s hope we move them both on. Would free up money and trim the squad down further which has to be the aim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bouncing Owl Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Looks like they’ve been frozen out to me. Those are 2 that we really do need to get off the books. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
striker Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Got to hand it to Jos, he sees what most of us do and seems to recognise which players need to move on as a priority. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I said last season we should just write Abdi off. Logic tells you that at his age he’s not going to suddenly come back from two wretched seasons and become an established player. Tell me a single player that’s ever done that!? At any club. He was fit and playing reserve games at the end of last season but barely got a sniff of the first team. Clearly for some indeterminable reason he’s just not up to it and Jos would rather play the youngsters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 while I rate jones it makes sense to get rid of as many of the aged as we can . Christ knows how we do it unless they are prepared to take a pay cut or we subsidise the shortfall in there wages if the do move . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl 44 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Under Carlos we stockpiled players because he didn't trust the youngsters. If needed, Jos would rather play Alex Hunt, Fraser Preston and Connor Kirby because they are the future of the club. Makes sense. However if we suffer the appalling number of injuries we did last season he might need some experience. Youngsters do better when they are surrounded by experience. I saw Reach and Hutch both giving advice to Alex Hunt in the first half last night. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) Abdi must’ve had a really major physical breakdown just after we got him, ‘cos I distinctly remember FF being delighted we’d landed him and even the Watford fans seemed far more gutted at Abdi leaving than Nando. It’s absolutely baffling. I can’t help wondering if there’s even perhaps a chronic illness issue rather than an injury per se, it’s been that bad...in the rare pics I see of him these days he looks like an old gimmer compared to when he first moved here - seems to have aged 15 years in two seasons. It’s crazy. Edited July 14, 2018 by Mr. Tom 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
joelswfc Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Could well mean that they’re on Jos’ and Chansiri’s ‘to sell’ list. But he may also have thought that there is no point playing them in a friendly, because we know what we get from them and they are an injury risk. Hoping it’s the former really! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davey_wells Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Again, no brainer - both apparently on massive wages, getting on a bit - Abdi is probably our worst ever signing, poor bloke, both surplus to requirements in our situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 He just doesn’t fit into the system we play Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 There were rumours a few weeks back that Abdi was willing to take a pay cut and head off back to Switzerland as there’d been interest in him there. I knew they were too good to be true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jim Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 I still think Abdi will end up back at Zurich. As for Jones, I’m pretty sure there will be some championship clubs that would value his experience? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Tom Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, Mr. Tom said: Abdi must’ve had a really major physical breakdown just after we got him, ‘cos I distinctly remember FF being delighted we’d landed him and even the Watford fans seemed far more gutted at Abdi leaving than Nando. It’s absolutely baffling. I can’t help wondering if there’s even perhaps a chronic illness issue rather than an injury per se, it’s been that bad...in the rare pics I see of him these days he looks like an old gimmer compared to when he first moved here - seems to have aged 15 years in two seasons. It’s crazy. Not wanting to make a massive 'conspiracy! illuminati confirmed!' issue out of this, 'cos I know he's had a rotten time lately for whatever reason through no fault of his own - but I was just looking at pics of him over the last couple of years out of interest, and...man, wtf has gone on with this lad in three seasons? Unbelievable if that's literally the difference 'match fitness' can make Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl in Nottingham Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 14 minutes ago, Mr. Tom said: Not wanting to make a massive 'conspiracy! illuminati confirmed!' issue out of this, 'cos I know he's had a rotten time lately for whatever reason through no fault of his own - but I was just looking at pics of him over the last couple of years out of interest, and...man, wtf has gone on with this lad in three seasons? Unbelievable if that's literally the difference 'match fitness' can make Well his fingers look better 6 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
33 Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 Ongoing shoulder problem as I understand it from previous physio team member Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 (edited) Those transfer windows in 2016/17 tho Abdi Fletcher Jones Jake Kean Buckley Emmanuelson Fox Rhodes Edited July 14, 2018 by Stoop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 would be a miracleif we can get shut of Abdi . massive wages and hardly played any football in the last year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 2 hours ago, striker said: Got to hand it to Jos, he sees what most of us do and seems to recognise which players need to move on as a priority. Or the case of Rhodes, he sees what some of us saw Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted July 14, 2018 Share Posted July 14, 2018 1 hour ago, joelswfc said: Could well mean that they’re on Jos’ and Chansiri’s ‘to sell’ list. But he may also have thought that there is no point playing them in a friendly, because we know what we get from them and they are an injury risk. Hoping it’s the former really! Agree in part bud, with Jones yes the manager will know him,Abdi if I'm being honest us still an unknown quantity, we'll in a Wednesday shirt anyway, what's it been 7 starts in 2 seasons and non for the new manager? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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