Owls-Fan Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 On 25/06/2018 at 07:55, Southie_Owl said: I’m still deluded enough to think Rhodes isn’t finished yet so I think at a team that play to his strengths he’ll do alright. I just hope we put a clause that he can’t play against us, and he has to score hatricks against the pigs Fixed it for you Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FreshOwl Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Can you just buy him instead please Norwich, thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 Jos said a while back he would like to get his business done early so any new players could be in during pre season, but its looking like we cant move until we get Rhodes out. I might be wrong, but i just have a feeling we have a deal agreed for Fred ,but cant do owt until we get one of the big earners out. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichieB Posted June 26, 2018 Share Posted June 26, 2018 3 minutes ago, S36 OWL said: but i just have a feeling we have a deal agreed for Fred ,but cant do owt until we get one of the big earners out. Nah mate we don't, according to Venancio's club chairman, there has been no bids at all for him. http://sportwitness.co.uk/claim-sheffield-wednesday-make-move-frederico-venancio-vitoria-president-says-no-offers/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaryfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 On 24/06/2018 at 20:44, @owlstalk said: Strong rumours that the Norwich City thing might actually be the real deal and that Jordan Rhodes might be off on a season long loan to Carrow Road Be interesting (if true) how much of his wages they're able to cover On 24/06/2018 at 20:44, @owlstalk said: Rumours this end are that talks have broken down, the two clubs have agreed wages to be paid but you want a £3m loan fee for the seasons loan which is excessive. Appreciate from reading you all think we're in the money having got £34m for Maddison/Murphy but we're not, we have a £25m parachute payment hole to fill this season plus still have 4 players on premier wages with a year left on their contracts. Plus of course the Maddison/Murphy money is as you all probably know not paid upfront . Think we would like to take Rhodes off your hands but not at a cost of over £4m for a season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Welcome to the site mate - let us know if you hear anything else :) Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 £3 million does seem excessive though if true. Maybe we could make it such that maybe half of it comes only should Norwich go up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Carbone Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) £3m loan fee - hilarious Does anyone still wonder why nobody ever leaves us? Chansiri wanting stupid unrealistic money for our players Edited June 27, 2018 by Carbone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wednesdaywizard Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 2 minutes ago, Carbone said: £3m loan fee - hilarious Does anyone still wonder why nobody ever leaves us? Chansiri wanting stupid unrealistic money for our players That's not a bad message to get across in fairness. Sets us up for any potential raids on our best players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Canaryfan Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 34 minutes ago, cowl said: £3 million does seem excessive though if true. Maybe we could make it such that maybe half of it comes only should Norwich go up. Sounds sensible & think you would have a deal then Edited June 27, 2018 by Canaryfan mistake Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 7 minutes ago, Canaryfan said: Sounds sensible & think you would have a deal then I can't imagine any club going along with paying £3 million up front a year for him, so if we can't strike a deal with Norwich given that wages have been agreed, then I can't see us striking a deal with anyone else. One thing I'm unsure of though is about the wages. Are Norwich going to pay him what we're currently paying him? If not and we'd essentially be subsidising his wages, I could see why we'd want to offset this with a big loan fee - but then since this is a season loan, I don't think there's any accounting advantages to be had either way. This edges me towards thinking that Norwich have agreed to pay him what we're currently paying him, and I'd say that that's already a pretty good deal if so. Given that we allegedly paid about £8 million for him and he signed a 4 year contract then the amortization rate would be £2 million per year, and to get a £3 million loan fee for him would be to essentially make an accounting profit of £1 million on him for this year. That would be fantastic business by Chansiri and Meire and kudos to them if they managed to get Norwich (or some other team) to pay that, but it really does seem unrealistic given the kind of form Rhodes has shown over the last couple of seasons. Still, maybe they're just trying to soften Norwich up with high demands, only to drop down to a less unreasonable figure over the coming weeks? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted June 27, 2018 Author Share Posted June 27, 2018 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
simpark Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 1 hour ago, Carbone said: £3m loan fee - hilarious Does anyone still wonder why nobody ever leaves us? Chansiri wanting stupid unrealistic money for our players Makes a change from flogging players on the cheap - Antonio etc Also it's a negotiation - we say we want £3m, they say £1m, we meet somewhere in the middle or we don't 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest addedtime Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 5 minutes ago, simpark said: , we meet somewhere in the middle or we don't And then we are stuck. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beholder Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) 3million seems about right. He is a goalscorer. Exactly what they need. They can take a chance elsewhere but they know what they are getting with Rhodes. If they want a top championship striker they shouldn't expect him on the cheap. I'm glad we aren't bending over and getting shafted again. If it doesn't happen, so be it. Edited June 27, 2018 by Beholder Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WalthamOwl Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 Still want him to stay with us. Will be a pretty crap feeling if and when he is banging goals in for a rival Championship team which I believe he will do. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kanye West Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 They've sold Josh Murphy for £11m and James Maddison for c.£20m in just the last couple of weeks. No wonder we're going to test the water with a hefty loan fee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 9 minutes ago, addedtime said: And then we are stuck. We are stuck at present, paying his wages and not playing him. Better to try and recoup some of what we have paid out in transfer fees and wages if he is not in Jos's plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darren906 Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 People moan we don't get money for our players then moan we try and get some money from a club who need a striker and just sold a couple of their players for hefty fees. Club can't win. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted June 27, 2018 Share Posted June 27, 2018 (edited) In today’s market (bear in mind Madine has just gone for £6m) he’ll command that fee based on what he has done previously, it is not disproportionate! Edited June 27, 2018 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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