longreach Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Geoffrey said: Yep. Well done on losing another couple of million. Well your Uncle could throw some money at the club eh!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daizan10 Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 On 22/06/2018 at 16:34, Bluesteel said: Is it less compo rather than none? Convoluted way of getting him to Leicester in a years time. Star say the UEFA rules will give us about 180k. Wondrous. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 (edited) 13 minutes ago, Geoffrey said: Yep. Well done on losing another couple of million. Assuming the lad would have agreed terms wih Leicester He might have turned them down to get a dream move to Leuven. Edited June 25, 2018 by DEH9 2 Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 hour ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: It's not just the scale of it that differs, though. Morally, a chairman using a loophole to pump a bit more of his cash into the club he owns in order to attempt to compete on an even footing with clubs whose bank balances have been artificially inflated by obscene parachute payments is hardly comparable to a club screwing another out of a development fee for a young player who came through their academy. If someone creates sponsorship for the club then it needs to be at or around market rate otherwise there can be repercussions (at least that’s how I understand it). The transfer issue seems unprecedented and i think it remains to be seen whether anything comes of it. If a player remains at the feeder club for a substantial amount of time then I’m guessing nothing will. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Daizan10 said: Star say the UEFA rules will give us about 180k. Wondrous. Id estimate about 10%/20% of what it could’ve been domestically (with various triggers) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 3 minutes ago, Buxtongent said: SURELY THE WHOLE EFFECT BOILS DOWN TO A SIMPLE ANSWER. IN ORDER FOR THERE TO BE A CONTRACT, TWO PEOPLE MUST AGREE! 1THEPERSON OFFERING THE CONTRACT MUST DECIDE HOW MUCH IT IS WORTH PAYING FOR THE SIGNATURE/SEVICES OF THE PERSON INVOLVED, Absolutely In this instance I guess what happened is not too far removed from these lines Young George, spending more and more time with England and doing well, gets chatting with his teammates and finds hes earning about 1/5th of that the other lads are on. He's also in contract with us - and we start negotiating a new deal He turns down whats offered because its nowhere near that of his peers in the England side The club ask him what hes prepared to stay for - and he gives them a figure similar to that of his peers in the England side The club says no Hirst is happy to play out his contract at the club before moving on to earn what he's worth elsewhere (thats football) We get an offer for £2m from Leicester and turn it down Club tell Hirst they've turned down the offer - and ask him to sign again Hirst says no unless they pay him what he has asked for and compared to his peers We ban him from training and playing in the U23's with his Wednesday peers and refuse to send him on loan when hes got one arranged at Rotherham Chairman releases his public statement - widening the chasm between the two and making any resolution even more unlikely Player leaves Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 15 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: Rather not sell my soul. To DTaxis or Elev8? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Geoffrey Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Absolutely In this instance I guess what happened is not too far removed from these lines Young George, spending more and more time with England and doing well, gets chatting with his teammates and finds hes earning about 1/5th of that the other lads are on. He's also in contract with us - and we start negotiating a new deal He turns down whats offered because its nowhere near that of his peers in the England side The club ask him what hes prepared to stay for - and he gives them a figure similar to that of his peers in the England side The club says no Hirst is happy to play out his contract at the club before moving on to earn what he's worth elsewhere (thats football) We get an offer for £2m from Leicester and turn it down Club tell Hirst they've turned down the offer - and ask him to sign again Hirst says no unless they pay him what he has asked for and compared to his peers We ban him from training and playing in the U23's with his Wednesday peers and refuse to send him on loan when hes got one arranged at Rotherham Chairman releases his public statement - widening the chasm between the two and making any resolution even more unlikely Player leaves Doesn't really explain DH leaving his ambassadorial role. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 2 minutes ago, Geoffrey said: Doesn't really explain DH leaving his ambassadorial role. No. It doesnt Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Well come on then. Why did Hirst leave his role We've all been on tenterhooks for 92 pages. Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Personally I would have started questioning DH's involvement as a club ambassador around the time he started telling fans that his son wouldn't be staying at Wednesday. The alleged abuse he yelled at academy staff probably didn't help matters either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Absolutely In this instance I guess what happened is not too far removed from these lines Young George, spending more and more time with England and doing well, gets chatting with his teammates and finds hes earning about 1/5th of that the other lads are on. He's also in contract with us - and we start negotiating a new deal He turns down whats offered because its nowhere near that of his peers in the England side The club ask him what hes prepared to stay for - and he gives them a figure similar to that of his peers in the England side The club says no Hirst is happy to play out his contract at the club before moving on to earn what he's worth elsewhere (thats football) We get an offer for £2m from Leicester and turn it down Club tell Hirst they've turned down the offer - and ask him to sign again Hirst says no unless they pay him what he has asked for and compared to his peers We ban him from training and playing in the U23's with his Wednesday peers and refuse to send him on loan when hes got one arranged at Rotherham Chairman releases his public statement - widening the chasm between the two and making any resolution even more unlikely Player leaves His being banned from playing in the U23s had already happened before the bid was turned down and before Hirst's agents told the club he wouldn't be signing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, cowl said: His being banned from playing in the U23s had already happened before the bid was turned down and before Hirst's agents told the club he wouldn't be signing. If thats the case then its utterly ridiculous we turned down a bid of £2m Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
akbuk Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 End of thread he's gone forget about him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, akbuk said: End of thread he's gone forget about him Its not compulsory to read the thread, or to contribute. You must be the 20th person to write end of thread - and its clearly not as people are still discussing it If you ARE Owlstalk Police then I apologise. But if you are you could also close the thread Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Errol Flashman Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 14 minutes ago, cowl said: His being banned from playing in the U23s had already happened before the bid was turned down... Because? Just a bloke. Being dragged along in a world that moves too quick for it's own good. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 Just now, Hillsborough Mole said: If thats the case then its utterly ridiculous we turned down a bid of £2m Agreed. I don't know if DC still felt he could convince Hirst to stay, or whether his own pride interceded, but we were never going to get more for him in January, so whichever way you look at it, it was an odd miscalculation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 38 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Absolutely In this instance I guess what happened is not too far removed from these lines Young George, spending more and more time with England and doing well, gets chatting with his teammates and finds hes earning about 1/5th of that the other lads are on. He's also in contract with us - and we start negotiating a new deal He turns down whats offered because its nowhere near that of his peers in the England side The club ask him what hes prepared to stay for - and he gives them a figure similar to that of his peers in the England side The club says no Hirst is happy to play out his contract at the club before moving on to earn what he's worth elsewhere (thats football) We get an offer for £2m from Leicester and turn it down Club tell Hirst they've turned down the offer - and ask him to sign again Hirst says no unless they pay him what he has asked for and compared to his peers We ban him from training and playing in the U23's with his Wednesday peers and refuse to send him on loan when hes got one arranged at Rotherham Chairman releases his public statement - widening the chasm between the two and making any resolution even more unlikely Player leaves This. Our Chairman fooked up. Simple as. Worst case scenario should have been taking the 2 million. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DEH9 said: Because? Precisely. It's inexplicable. We could all just give DC the benefit of the doubt, and say he must have had a good reason for it, but I've genuinely no such faith in DC's motives here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted June 25, 2018 Share Posted June 25, 2018 8 minutes ago, akbuk said: End of thread he's gone forget about him Errr the thread seems to be continuing without your say so. I suggest you write a strongly worded letter expressing your outrage at a discussion continuing without your authority. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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