BREAKING - George Hirst Gone

[casbahowl]

2 hours ago, Socialist_Owl said:

Seriously.  Chalk up the geniuses wanting to do away with the academy "just because Huddersfield did" in this idiot category.

 

Ffs.  

 

 

Spoken like a true socialist......

Completely out of touch with reality!

[DuttyTeabags]

The most badly handled saga I can remember. Someone in commercial team to Chansiri,  "I think David Hirst is drinking too much free booze and taking liberties on the hospitality for him and his friends"

 

Short sighted response, "let's take affirmative action and fire him to save a few hundred quid a month this alienating him and his son."

 

Macro response, "the main thing is we keep George and his Dad onside as could be worth millions in future transfer fees, just let him get on with it but try and keep an element of control.  Main priority is getting George signed to a long term contract"

 

So we've list GH for nothing for sake of snacking his Dad cos he drank a few too many beers in the process of entertaining fans post match. 

 

Signing JR was probably the nail in the coffin.

 

What a joke.

[Guest]

On 22/06/2018 at 17:24, Beholder said:

Your ignoring the spiteful decision to refuse him any football for a year then? 

 

There are two sides to every story. 

 

If I had been offered much less than I was worth then denied any football for a year when I refuse it, I wouldn't be inclined to do the club any favours either. 

 

 

So Wednesday don't deserve any credit for his development through the years to get him to young England status. Are you related to the Hirst family. If you had invested thousands and knew full well that during the development he was going to stick two fingers up to the club, his father was an bitter tvvat, what would you do as chairman. The quicker this saga and sorry state of affairs is over with. It just typifies what is so wrong with football these days. 

[np pontefract]

3 hours ago, casbahowl said:

Spoken like a true socialist......

Completely out of touch with reality!

 

You are quite right.

Money is everything !

Nothing else matters !

 

Have you sold Grandma yet ?

 

                           

[@owlstalk]

Worth noting that Sheffield Wednesday have just seen their most valuable youngster ever developed at SWFC disappear for absolutely FREE because of a dispute.

Our most valuable youngster ever at SWFC

Gone.

For FREE

 

[vulva]

The issues and noise of Hirst getting frozen out, contracts not accepted, not training with peer group, his Dad etc etc are all now totally irrelevant. 

 

If Hirst had joined Leicester, and they’d loaned him to Leuvan there wouldn’t be a story here. That’s football, appropriate compensation would have been paid following a process agreed by all clubs. Some you win, sons you lose. No problem. Good luck George Hirst, these things happen. Players bigger than the club etc.  

 

The story here is whether Leicester have deliberately circumnavigated this agreed process (agreed by all clubs) by using their sister club in a random European 2nd division. Clubs have to adhere to the rules, and conduct business within the spirit of the law. In my opinion, there is a clear case to answer here, and I would take this one all the way, otherwise football at a lower league level, and youth football as we know it, will be destroyed.

 

Lets not forget this compensation is partly money owed to us to cover his development. Only a % is the value and future potential value of the player. And we also lose out on any future sell on. 

 

 

[Guest]

On 22/06/2018 at 17:40, Beholder said:

He wouldn't have played because the condition for him playing was signing the contract. 

 

Now what had happened is not only has he gone but we won't get compo. 

 

That's what happens when you treat people like that. They hate you for it. 

You really are very close to the Hirst family or just full of speculative sh8te. But then again I'm just one of many morons on here who try to support the club rather than a bitter and twisted family. I get the impression you are lapping this whole affair up where it appears Wednesday have been well and truly shafted

[BRADDO]

4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

Worth noting that Sheffield Wednesday have just seen their most valuable youngster ever developed at SWFC disappear for absolutely FREE because of a dispute.

Our most valuable youngster ever at SWFC

Gone.

For FREE

 

Yep.

[vulva]

20 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

Worth noting that Sheffield Wednesday have just seen their most valuable youngster ever developed at SWFC disappear for absolutely FREE because of a dispute.

Our most valuable youngster ever at SWFC

Gone.

For FREE

 

Incorrect. The dispute is irrelevant. Players up and down the country are currently in dispute, and many will walk on a free transfer. That is their right, and they have Mr Bosman to thank for that. 

 

What I’ve never seen is a club engineering a player contract expiry, whether in dispute or not, to avoid paying legally agreed compensation. 

 

How would Wednesday fans react if he signed for Leicester from Leuvan on Monday? I’m no expert here, but there’s nothing stopping them doing that? Wolves and Stoke did it last week with Afobe. 

[daleblue]

10 hours ago, OWLERTON GHOST said:

Any individual that can't spell plinth correctly isn't worthy of Hawker Hurricanes ....

Couple of cessnas is best we can muster you loser ......

Orange box, Max Bygrave, number 80

to Chapeltown not stopping at a request 

stop.

[@owlstalk]

5 minutes ago, vulva said:

Incorrect. The dispute is irrelevant.

 
Not really

If it's a personal argument between the chairman and the Hirst's then it's very relevant when the chairman then asks the fans to back him financially by buying season tickets etc etc

It becomes relevant then

[vulva]

2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said:

 
Not really

If it's a personal argument between the chairman and the Hirst's then it's very relevant when the chairman then asks the fans to back him financially by buying season tickets etc etc

It becomes relevant then

All irrelevant. The story is is how Leicester have acquired this player. Personal arguments, season tickets and spending £9m on Rhodes have nothing to do with how Leicester should conduct business. The FA need to get involved here ASAP. 

[pgmetcalf]

5 hours ago, DEH9 said:

 

Like  owt else  in business it depends if it's paying for itsen in the long term doesn't it. 

 

 

 

ppprrrrooofffiiittt 

[Beholder]

9 minutes ago, vulva said:

All irrelevant. The story is is how Leicester have acquired this player. Personal arguments, season tickets and spending £9m on Rhodes have nothing to do with how Leicester should conduct business. The FA need to get involved here ASAP. 

For me the personal argument is relevant because the Hirsts must agree to whatever deal is made. 

 

If there was a good feeling between Hirst and club, any deal intended to shaft us (that involved an ex captain) would be distasteful and avoided. 

 

They are not sociopaths. (and no I don't know them, I just understand people). 

 

There is a human level to this deal that you are ignoring. 

 

 

[Shipley Owl]

10 hours ago, DEH9 said:

 

Cheers mate. 

Do yer wanna buy it? 

Only I need some more forra new window as I chucked me brew through the kitchen window when Germany scored 20 seconds after I'd cashed out for 20p

 

The elation of watching a 95th minute stoppage time winner at the World Cup, then the crushing pain of remembering it's Germany.

 

Football can be beautiful and scheisse all at once.

[NorthernOwl]

17 minutes ago, vulva said:

All irrelevant. The story is is how Leicester have acquired this player. Personal arguments, season tickets and spending £9m on Rhodes have nothing to do with how Leicester should conduct business. The FA need to get involved here ASAP. 

 

I agree completely but the problem is whilst it clear what Leicester are up to they aren't breaking any rules, just exploiting the system. Certainly at the moment there is no case to answer since all that has happened is a 2nd division european club have signed a free agent. They are perfectly entitled to do that. Should he play for them for a season and then Leicester sign him they then have the insulation of that year. There is enough distance there that its hard to see what the FA could do about it. The only way we would have a case is if he signs for Leicester without playing for the belgian club at all. That would be a clear and obvious attempt at circumnavigating the rules and is clearly a loop hole that needs to be closed.

[dfoster]

10 hours ago, Quist said:

He did not look at his best in game he scored. He was called up and then dropped from squad. The only clubs mentioned in press were Man utd and Everton. Everton now have manager in same agency as Hirst and Mourinho promotes Doyen personnel whenever a chance. Leicester were only other club mentioned that was 12 months  ago. Clearly did not generate interest they thought, if you remove signing on fee I suspect he is on money no better or worse than we offered. A complete mess for the lad and by the time spent playing in Belgium thirty months of career wasted at key development stage. Very sad state of affairs.

 

Totally agree with every word. Scored one goal in four for the U23s I think. Fraser Preston scored four or five goals in the same matches and Borukov was also scoring at higher frequency come the end of the season.

 

The right choice would have been to extend his contract with us, take the pay rise and security, move on loan last August and continue to build his career.

 

As with my many careers i honestly believe that if you focus on becoming v good the money will follow. He has focused on the largest possible short term financial boost at the detriment of his progress and I honestly think, as Quist has said, he's under a lot of pressure now. An average season out there will not look good. And he's no baby - turns 20 in Feb.

[@owlstalk]

25 minutes ago, vulva said:

All irrelevant. The story is is how Leicester have acquired this player. Personal arguments, season tickets and spending £9m on Rhodes have nothing to do with how Leicester should conduct business. The FA need to get involved here ASAP. 

I'm not interested/talking about Leicester or that side of things

I'm talking about BEFORE that to how SWFC Chairman handled this 

[BIG D]

1 minute ago, @owlstalk said:

I'm not interested/talking about Leicester or that side of things

I'm talking about BEFORE that to how SWFC Chairman handled this 

It’s all linked though isn’t it? Didn’t Leicester put a bid in before all this sh it started?

They put a bid in, all of a sudden the Hirsts want more dosh, announce he won’t be signing the new contract because a 4 year deal worth £4K a week isn’t enough for a kid who’s played about 20 mins first team football. Hirst Snr then effs and jeffs at academy staff, told no more free beer for you and that’s it.

[casbahowl]

2 hours ago, DuttyTeabags said:

The most badly handled saga I can remember. Someone in commercial team to Chansiri,  "I think David Hirst is drinking too much free booze and taking liberties on the hospitality for him and his friends"

 

Short sighted response, "let's take affirmative action and fire him to save a few hundred quid a month this alienating him and his son."

 

Macro response, "the main thing is we keep George and his Dad onside as could be worth millions in future transfer fees, just let him get on with it but try and keep an element of control.  Main priority is getting George signed to a long term contract"

 

So we've list GH for nothing for sake of snacking his Dad cos he drank a few too many beers in the process of entertaining fans post match. 

 

Signing JR was probably the nail in the coffin.

 

What a joke.

The only joke is this ridiculous post!