Wednesday_Jack Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, james o connor said: Wow .... okay correct 30 is no age but after injuries he apparently suffered this season we could probably end up with another abdi or jones or fletcher who are draining resources without giving anything back . we have plenty in that age bracket and desperately need some younger more mobile players. Lopez was decent but again I don’t think we need to look at past players who have had injury problems. Are there any players who don’t get injured throughout a season? If you work on this theory, we wouldn’t make any signings!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 1 hour ago, Hookowl said: Agree with this point .........................although I think you meant it in a different context. I generally mean that signing a player who we had on loan 2 seasons ago isn’t a bad thing if he improves us. Marshall for instance...I would take him in an heartbeat. His performances and stats for millwall last season were superb, he was arguably up there with the best midfielders in the league. If you listen to some folk on here it’s a bad idea to even contemplate signing him, despite the fact that in 16 games he contributed more than what most of our entire midfield did in a full season. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lee A Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 41 minutes ago, Arcadianrocket said: 100 times better then Pessy. Disagree, Pelupessy started slowly but seems to be adapting well and got better with every game. He's also at a much better age and his attitude is first class. Need to bring in more young, inexpensive players like him imo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 17 minutes ago, Wednesday_Jack said: I generally mean that signing a player who we had on loan 2 seasons ago isn’t a bad thing if he improves us. Marshall for instance...I would take him in an heartbeat. His performances and stats for millwall last season were superb, he was arguably up there with the best midfielders in the league. If you listen to some folk on here it’s a bad idea to even contemplate signing him, despite the fact that in 16 games he contributed more than what most of our entire midfield did in a full season. I thought that was what you meant. My reply was a lighthearted dig at some people remembering past players with rose blue tinted glasses. Not dissing Lopez at all by the way, just think we need to move forwards not keep in the past. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Arcadianrocket Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 20 minutes ago, Lee A said: Disagree, Pelupessy started slowly but seems to be adapting well and got better with every game. He's also at a much better age and his attitude is first class. Need to bring in more young, inexpensive players like him imo. Can see like with Rhodes, he is no good enough either Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sultan_Pepper Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 hours ago, chizumgeorge said: Clearly wasnt last season! True, but neither were we Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eastleigh Owl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Thought the 4 first words of the OP were correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Wednesday_Jack said: The obsession with bashing fans who obviously appreciate talent is bizarre!! 30 is an age where he’s in his prime, he’s better than jones, abdi and Boyd. He would also cost a fraction of their wages...yeah very bizzare tho!! Does it it matter if he played for us before...no!! People who think this are complete fools. thank you and good day Might just about at the back end of his prime years at 30, but would want at least a 2 year contract. He certainly won’t be by then and will have no onward value. The club has to be far smarter in the transfer market with an eye to signing young players that add some value in years to come. No more Fletcher/Jones/Abdi or Boyd’s looking for a last big wage for heaven’s sake. It’s the road to ruin. That policy just has to change. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
shezzas left peg Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 We need those younger fitter legs with a good engine in midfield, not another 30 year old strolling around the middle. Would prefer another similar to joey, but more box to box, with an eye for goal. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 What is this obsession with age. Joey Barton at Burnley was early 30's and was instrumental in getting them up. If you are fit enough you are good enough regardless of age. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
airborne_rat_of_s6 Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 Swap deal with Abdi. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 2 hours ago, Hookowl said: I thought that was what you meant. My reply was a lighthearted dig at some people remembering past players with rose blue tinted glasses. Not dissing Lopez at all by the way, just think we need to move forwards not keep in the past. I got that mate...some are deluded tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
StudentOwl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 21 minutes ago, One De Bilde said: What is this obsession with age. Joey Barton at Burnley was early 30's and was instrumental in getting them up. If you are fit enough you are good enough regardless of age. So was Jones in the same midfield wasn't he? Yet he's hardly looked like a centre midfielder than was a near mainstay in a promotion team. Their age doesn't matter, only that we get them before the age catches up with them and leaves them ineffective. That's the trick. As for asking what the obsession with age is... if you haven't noticed we have a squad full of older players who are past their prime that's restricting our finances and ability to make transfers as freely as we'd like and contributed to our £20m losses last financial year. So that probably has something to do with it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
One De Bilde Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 26 minutes ago, StudentOwl said: So was Jones in the same midfield wasn't he? Yet he's hardly looked like a centre midfielder than was a near mainstay in a promotion team. Their age doesn't matter, only that we get them before the age catches up with them and leaves them ineffective. That's the trick. As for asking what the obsession with age is... if you haven't noticed we have a squad full of older players who are past their prime that's restricting our finances and ability to make transfers as freely as we'd like and contributed to our £20m losses last financial year. So that probably has something to do with it. Cheers Sherlock. Bloody hope Ronaldo doesn't want to come here.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
s73owl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 3 hours ago, Wednesday_Jack said: Are there any players who don’t get injured throughout a season? If you work on this theory, we wouldn’t make any signings!! Reach?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 (edited) Lopez was decent enough, but there is a lot of rose tinted hindsight for a player who only made 14 league starts, of which only 5 ended in victory 16 / 6 if you include the playoffs Edited June 17, 2018 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lichfield alien Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 10 hours ago, torryowl said: lopez's old club ….. I don’t think they are called that tho..what’s their proper name? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hawkowl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 If he came back on a short term contract and for a reasonable wage,I think he could be a useful addition. But I am basing that on his time here,as I haven't a clue how he fared last season. FFS. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 42 minutes ago, Lichfield alien said: I don’t think they are called that tho..what’s their proper name? real sporting de Gijon but everyone in spain would call them just sporting …... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted June 17, 2018 Share Posted June 17, 2018 5 hours ago, One De Bilde said: What is this obsession with age. Joey Barton at Burnley was early 30's and was instrumental in getting them up. If you are fit enough you are good enough regardless of age. It’s about the long term sustainability of the club. Sign younger, hungrier players that can be sold on for a profit is basic common sense if we want a sustainable financial position. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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