Shot down in flames. Posted May 24, 2018 Share Posted May 24, 2018 Just thinking what might have been if we had been a club in a better position 10 to 15 years ago with a better scouting network and a better position to attract youngsters looking at the current World Cup squad. Danny Rose, Harry Maguire, John Stones, Gary Cahill, Kyle Walker, Jamie Vardy. All fairly local lads to hillsborough. Ok I know we had the last one and that didn't quite work out, Maguire we know is an owl and played for the blunts so if any of them are they might have signed on. Food for thought! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fudge27 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 A nice early contender for worst thread of the summer. Kudos. 1 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WindygrOWLer Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 9 minutes ago, fudge27 said: A nice early contender for worst thread of the summer. Kudos. Ouch..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
markowl Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 shotdowninflames shot down in flames 5 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pazowl55 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 It's all Cantona's fault. Or ours for not thinking he could play on grass. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
HOSTAGE IN PYONGYANG Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 In the 1990s it could have gone either way. I actually believed! But that's in the past, just looking forward to next season and the future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Do you think if we’d have won at Wembley & made it into the sacred Prem, our players like Reach, Lee, Lees would be getting England call ups? Dare to dream Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 An interesting view OP. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doctor Duran Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Its a valid point.. Of course we had Vardy for a time, but it does beg the question was any of the others mentioned ever had the chance to come to Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 We couldn’t even get Chris Waddle selected in the season that he won the Sports Writers award. I have often wondered how many England caps David Hirst would have won, had he had gone directly from Barnsley to Man Utd. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot down in flames. Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, theowlsman said: An interesting view OP. It does show the sort of talent South Yorkshire has, yet we don't seem overly good at producing anything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shot down in flames. Posted May 25, 2018 Author Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 2 hours ago, fudge27 said: A nice early contender for worst thread of the summer. Kudos. I have seen some proper tripe on here over the years, l reckon Lego Hillsborough might trump mine for bad! Edited May 25, 2018 by Shot down in flames. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 4 minutes ago, Shot down in flames. said: I have seen some proper tripe on here over the years, least it isn't another George Hirst thread! It is now! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ZicoSterland2 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 20 bad years of producing little or no homegrown talent but it would seem the tide is turning and youngsters are starting to come through. What we need now is to keep hold of them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, j17tjp said: Do you think if we’d have won at Wembley & made it into the sacred Prem, our players like Reach, Lee, Lees would be getting England call ups? Dare to dream Lees is better than the Munster Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 1 hour ago, optimisticowl said: We couldn’t even get Chris Waddle selected in the season that he won the Sports Writers award. I have often wondered how many England caps David Hirst would have won, had he had gone directly from Barnsley to Man Utd. Hirst's lack of England caps was purely down to injuries....nothing to do with who he played for Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 (edited) 53 minutes ago, Ian said: Hirst's lack of England caps was purely down to injuries....nothing to do with who he played for Sorry Ian, but I don’t agree, he would have had far better medical care at Man Utd, plus the England manager usually looks at eligible players from the top clubs, Vardy and the keepers being a refreshing exception. Edited May 25, 2018 by optimisticowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 Think it shows there is a lot of talent to exploit locally and a good academy could really repay dividends. In last few years we have been trying but unfortunately had wrong manager to get the best out of what was being produced. Jos has shown he can be the man to link academy with first team. Interesting a young team of lads from a Sheffield school has reached EFL final at Wembley can not remeber this happening before so it seems good players are still being produced locally. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j17tjp Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 19 minutes ago, optimisticowl said: Sorry Ian, but I don’t agree, he would have had far better medical care at Man Utd, plus the England manager usually looks at eligible players from the top clubs, Vardy and the keepers being a refreshing exception. Id have to agree with this.... i dont rate Phil Jones as one of the best in England. even watching him in FA cup last week was bad, but to be supporting him during the World Cup goes against everything I stand for unless it’s a very clever ploy by Southgate... he knows Jones isn’t good enough so Southgate might bring his boots & sub himself on for one last tourny Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted May 25, 2018 Share Posted May 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Ian said: Hirst's lack of England caps was purely down to injuries....nothing to do with who he played for Hirst injuries was plain and simple down to us, he was always rushed back too early when not match fit because we the fans loved him. I am sure at the time I read, that we had lined up a Southampton Striker to replace Hirst if he decided to leave for £3.5m - some bloke called Alan Shearer. If Hirst had gone to Man Utd he would have had the careers Shearer had and Shearer would have been Hirst always injured - as you forget he got a lot of injuries in his career at Blackburn and Newcastle but he got proper treatment and not rush back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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