trevdi9 Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 1 hour ago, trevdi9 said: well i think he did brilliant with the hand he was dealt tbh and getting Nuhiu scoring was the icing on the cake 'not getting carried away but I feel we will be ok next season 42 minutes ago, Wakefield owl said: I don't want to be ok next season I want to see us challenging for promotion again. Don't understand why anyone thinks we shouldn't be. in my 58 years of supporting Wednesday I have learnt one thing and that is take it as it comes the season hasn't started yet , ,we all want that challenge and so it should be but we saw how this season played out 'that said I don't build my hopes up then if we do anything it's a bonus Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted May 9, 2018 Share Posted May 9, 2018 (edited) And then the period already referred to as Carvalhal's tenure came to an end... SHOTS ON TARGET Aston Villa (a) 2 Bristol City (h) 0 Ipswich (a) 2 Reading (a) 1 Hull (h) 4 Norwich (a) 4 Wolves (h) 1 Middlesbrough (h) 1 Edited May 9, 2018 by DJMortimer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday_Jack Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 On 08/05/2018 at 14:59, Lichfield alien said: Only the fools wanted him to stay on after the play off debacle..both legs wer a disgrace I certainly thought the time was right after Huddersfield playoff failure...I went to both legs n in the first leg Carlos got it half right and we didn’t concede, the second was a disgusting tactical display on his behalf and he got it totally wrong. We never recovered and we got to endure this season on the back of that. No no doubt in my mind it was 6 months to late!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 People do realise there’s a difference between being sacked and handing in your resignation to move to another job, don’t they ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Night-Owl Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 9 hours ago, SiJ said: Should have gone after the steel city derby or a week or two afterward. Was pretty apparent that Carlos couldn't get a tune out of the players anymore and our ability to even grind opposition down was deserting us. But what's done is done and Jos is looking like a decent appointment so far. This ^ and I remember reading from a few sources after he went, that DC was contemplating it around that time. Supposedly with the interest in the likes of Fonseca? Carlos had clearly taken us as far has he could and left us in a mess half way through the season. For whatever reasons DC left it till around Christmas but thankfully in hindsight in order to bring in Jos. I had my doubts too at first about Jos to be honest but he's certainly won me over with his almost old school attitude; calmness, the hard work, giving the youngsters a chance, solidifying and stabilising us, all whilst we were down to the bare bones. The finish to the season makes me wonder what Jos will be capable of with a stronger squad, a full pre-season and a few new players? No doubt to me DC got it right, the timing was off but even that looks to have been right too, as bringing in Jos has so far worked and looks an shrewd find. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nero Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 I think the difference between Jos and Carlos is that Carvahal saw the game as a battle between two managers where Jos sees it as 11 footballers against another 11 footballers. Jos doesn't have Carvahals rampaging ego to get in the way. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 16 hours ago, Wakefield owl said: Perhaps your preconceived thoughts have not allowed to follow what actually happened. He was not surprised when he went off he was injured - check it out. Perhaps his lack of surprise should have been transmitted to his face at the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 (edited) 6 hours ago, Peacenocchio said: I think the difference between Jos and Carlos is that Carvahal saw the game as a battle between two managers where Jos sees it as 11 footballers against another 11 footballers. Jos doesn't have Carvahals rampaging ego to get in the way. Agree with this. Only thing that makes my head hurt is getting my head round why CC has such an ego. There's literally nothing in his managerial CV to suggest he should have any sort of ego to maintain let alone a huge ego like he has. A truly bizarre man... Edited May 10, 2018 by Almat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wakefield owl Posted May 10, 2018 Share Posted May 10, 2018 8 hours ago, upperwinngardensowl said: Perhaps his lack of surprise should have been transmitted to his face at the time. So you go with the look on his face over the fact he was injured and had to withdraw from the Scotland squad? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Luke Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 this season for me was a right off soon as Carlos signed a new contract.the squad needed motivating after back to back playoff failures.and it's clear as day Carlos is not that guy.admitted that himself when he got the sack. 4 results stand out for me which should him seen him shown the door 1)Brighton away last season,never seen a team fall apart as quick in 30 years watching football 2) Huddersfield home leg ,already discussed 3) steel derby ,obvious reasons 4)game after against Birmingham,Carlos said we get a response,that performance was a smack in the face against ever Wednesdayite. then there was the 'we'll be promoted ' arrogance.£20 note embarrassment. the list could go on dc should have sacked him months before but I won't slag off someone who clearly is a honourable bloke anyway Jos will get us firing again 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 I'd take Jos all day over the "merry go round" of managers that continuously rotate from one Championship club to another, rarely finding success but always finding another well-paid job!! We are well out of that game.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jonnyowl Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Jos should be judge in next season not the last 10 games! However replicate the last 10 games over all of next season and well have a very special manager on our hands. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 4 minutes ago, Morepork said: I'd take Jos all day over the "merry go round" of managers that continuously rotate from one Championship club to another, rarely finding success but always finding another well-paid job!! We are well out of that game.... Same Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fred mciver Posted May 11, 2018 Author Share Posted May 11, 2018 Gotta say , with Jos and Katy on board things look a lot brighter both on and off pitch. Some of our links to signings look really good , too - as long as Fessi stays. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 Will be interesting to see what happens next season. I’m not going to get too complacent, pet can happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls-Fan Posted May 11, 2018 Share Posted May 11, 2018 2 hours ago, fred mciver said: Gotta say , with Jos and Katy on board things look a lot brighter both on and off pitch. Some of our links to signings look really good , too - as long as Fessi stays. What links have you seen? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
victorturner Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 The team found energy and determination under JL , assisted by some players having something to prove after not being either first choice or even given a chance. The players seemed together and seemingly enjoying playing. Long term injuries have been far too numerous and the players might be liking that more cautious approach to recovery. Apart from turning results around with the help of more determined players and some returning quality, JL big achievement was to prevent a pretty demoralised and denuded squad from collapsing in face of some disappointing results early on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
agentwalker Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 The main difference between Carlos and Jos is Jos tailors the tactics to suite the players he's got available . Carlos had 1 way of playing at the start of this season and stuck with it regardless of the players Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sham67 Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 Executive, bathroom or 3 piece? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted May 12, 2018 Share Posted May 12, 2018 37 minutes ago, agentwalker said: The main difference between Carlos and Jos is Jos tailors the tactics to suite the players he's got available . Carlos had 1 way of playing at the start of this season and stuck with it regardless of the players The main difference is Jos is a capable coach, not a fraud and bullshiit artist. 1 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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