Box_Man Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Had a quick look on the Norwich forum to see what they thought about tomorrow’s match an a main topic was the below. Do we think that’s accurate? I expected Wolves, Sunderland to be higher.... Average weekly wage bill in the Championship Villa £25,566 Middlesboro £23,272 Derby £ 17,437 Norwich £15,616 Sheff Wed £15,226 Fulham £14,826 Wolves £14,453 Sunderland £14,310 Nottm Forest £12,068 Reading £11,005 Hull £10,918 Birmingham £10,707 Cardiff £10,220 Leeds £8,952 QPR £7,971 Binners £7,250 Bristol City £7,032 Brentford £6,913 Sheff Utd £6,268 Bolton £6,208 Burton £4,559 Preston £4,276 Millwall £4,017 Barnsley £3,882 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pod9 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) Expected Burton to be the lowest. And who are Binners? Edited May 5, 2018 by Pod9 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dowls Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Will be a year out assuming it’s taken from published accounts Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Box_Man Posted May 5, 2018 Author Share Posted May 5, 2018 4 minutes ago, Pod9 said: Expected Burton to be the lowest. And who are Binners? Im guessing Ipswich as it was on a Norwich forum 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, Pod9 said: Expected Burton to be the lowest. And who are Binners? Ipswich. No idea why. Preston, Millwall, Brentford, Bristol City and Cardiff stand out. By contrast, Carlos hugely under-achieved. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beighton Owl 87 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Preston and Millwall have done incredible considering their budgets. Amazed Wolves isn't higher than that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 27 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Ipswich. No idea why. Preston, Millwall, Brentford, Bristol City and Cardiff stand out. By contrast, Carlos hugely under-achieved. Absolutely correct . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
paulrs Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Wolves and Sunderland have got a sprinkling of very high profile names (Rodwell, O’Shea, Neves, Costa)... but the rest are mostly youngsters in Sunderland’s case or players with steady reputations in Wolves’s. Im surprised were not higher than Norwich to be honest. It’s yet More evidence to suggest we’ve been among the leagues biggest hitters in terms of spending and did no more than achieve par under Carlos before it all fell apart this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 (edited) 50 minutes ago, Box_Man said: Had a quick look on the Norwich forum to see what they thought about tomorrow’s match an a main topic was the below. Do we think that’s accurate? I expected Wolves, Sunderland to be higher.... Average weekly wage bill in the Championship Villa £25,566 Middlesboro £23,272 Derby £ 17,437 Norwich £15,616 Sheff Wed £15,226 Fulham £14,826 Wolves £14,453 Sunderland £14,310 Nottm Forest £12,068 Reading £11,005 Hull £10,918 Birmingham £10,707 Cardiff £10,220 Leeds £8,952 QPR £7,971 Binners £7,250 Bristol City £7,032 Brentford £6,913 Sheff Utd £6,268 Bolton £6,208 Burton £4,559 Preston £4,276 Millwall £4,017 Barnsley £3,882 Yep I think that's pretty accurate if anything Wednesday and Wolves average will be higher , without being picky it's not actually the average weekly wage bill it's the average weekly earnings for playing staff . Edited May 5, 2018 by Owl999 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RichSheffWeds Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 54 minutes ago, Box_Man said: Had a quick look on the Norwich forum to see what they thought about tomorrow’s match an a main topic was the below. Do we think that’s accurate? I expected Wolves, Sunderland to be higher.... Average weekly wage bill in the Championship Villa £25,566 Middlesboro £23,272 Derby £ 17,437 Norwich £15,616 Sheff Wed £15,226 Fulham £14,826 Wolves £14,453 Sunderland £14,310 Nottm Forest £12,068 Reading £11,005 Hull £10,918 Birmingham £10,707 Cardiff £10,220 Leeds £8,952 QPR £7,971 Binners £7,250 Bristol City £7,032 Brentford £6,913 Sheff Utd £6,268 Bolton £6,208 Burton £4,559 Preston £4,276 Millwall £4,017 Barnsley £3,882 If it’s accurate it just demonstrates how much we have gone for it and we have no parachute payments. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 48 minutes ago, Holmowl said: Ipswich. No idea why. Preston, Millwall, Brentford, Bristol City and Cardiff stand out. By contrast, Carlos hugely under-achieved. Just playing devil's advocate here mate so bear with me..... I agree about the underachievement vs. the other clubs, we're paying top end wages and not getting VFM by any means, that is a given. But, as it is generally accepted the CC didn't sign the players and 100% accepted that he didn't negotiate the contracts is it really his underachievement? I suppose the bottom line is the same, but for me, the underachievement rests with the club at the highest level and not the manager. You could argue its pedantic and the end result is the same but, I think it's important that we acknowledge where the responsibility really lies. I'm a few IPA's and a couple of glasses of Marlborough Pinot into my Saturday night here but I'd welcome your thoughts? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 1 hour ago, Holmowl said: Ipswich. No idea why. Preston, Millwall, Brentford, Bristol City and Cardiff stand out. By contrast, Carlos hugely under-achieved. or our players are massively overpaid ...... 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 13 minutes ago, Morepork said: Just playing devil's advocate here mate so bear with me..... I agree about the underachievement vs. the other clubs, we're paying top end wages and not getting VFM by any means, that is a given. But, as it is generally accepted the CC didn't sign the players and 100% accepted that he didn't negotiate the contracts is it really his underachievement? I suppose the bottom line is the same, but for me, the underachievement rests with the club at the highest level and not the manager. You could argue its pedantic and the end result is the same but, I think it's important that we acknowledge where the responsibility really lies. I'm a few IPA's and a couple of glasses of Marlborough Pinot into my Saturday night here but I'd welcome your thoughts? I understand the point you are making but you could look at it the other way. DC paid transfer fees and wages at the top level for this league, he provided CC with quality players but CC wasn't able to use them effectively. As he was supposedly a coach rather than a manager it's his job to work with the players at his disposal to achieve the target set for him which was promotion. I don't agree that "as it is generally accepted the CC didn't sign the players." It has been suggested but the club and Carlos both said he was heavily involved in the choice of players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Plonk Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 36 minutes ago, Morepork said: Just playing devil's advocate here mate so bear with me..... I agree about the underachievement vs. the other clubs, we're paying top end wages and not getting VFM by any means, that is a given. But, as it is generally accepted the CC didn't sign the players and 100% accepted that he didn't negotiate the contracts is it really his underachievement? I suppose the bottom line is the same, but for me, the underachievement rests with the club at the highest level and not the manager. You could argue its pedantic and the end result is the same but, I think it's important that we acknowledge where the responsibility really lies. I'm a few IPA's and a couple of glasses of Marlborough Pinot into my Saturday night here but I'd welcome your thoughts? No he didn’t negotiate contracts but I wonder how many managers do? But he always insisted he identified the players so can’t agree with your “ widely accepted” comment. Either way he had some top class players on good money and failed to deliver. Let’s see what Jo’s can do with the same or similar players. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Morepork Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 12 minutes ago, prowl said: I understand the point you are making but you could look at it the other way. DC paid transfer fees and wages at the top level for this league, he provided CC with quality players but CC wasn't able to use them effectively. As he was supposedly a coach rather than a manager it's his job to work with the players at his disposal to achieve the target set for him which was promotion. I don't agree that "as it is generally accepted the CC didn't sign the players." It has been suggested but the club and Carlos both said he was heavily involved in the choice of players. 1 I guess the right answer is that the club has underachieved at all levels, certainly this season. Everything points to our model changing under Jos so it will be interesting to see if we can reverse our fortunes. My intention was the write - "as it is generally accepted that CC didn't sign all the players." as I'm missing keywords and the wine is still flowing here I'm signing off before I start defending Carlos to the death, whoops I may have already done that in another thread!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Beauchief Owl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Paying high wages, as we do, means that it is possible to tempt players away from other clubs in the Championship or compete with them for transfer targets. On the other hand if they don't come good it is very hard to get rid of them as we have seen. It is vital we get value for money and clearly we haven't this season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 I think our average will be affected by three or four highly paid individuals. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 15 minutes ago, Animis said: I think our average will be affected by three or four highly paid individuals. So why aren't Wolves? Or is it that their figures are affected by a few exceptionally low paid players/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 if that list is from last season as the accounts for this season wouldn't be out yet then with the 5th highest wage bill our 4th place finish is about right ..... 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted May 5, 2018 Share Posted May 5, 2018 Just shows how well Preston, millwall and the pigs have done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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