RichieB Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 22 minutes ago, Mr Farrell said: He made it way too late and let Carlos do too much damage before booting the fraud. This. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 3 minutes ago, HubristicClapper said: Hindsight and all that. I'd agree with that assessment if everything that has come out since was known as a problem by Chansiri and his team back then. In fact, do they even acknowledge any issues Carlos caused now? I would love that question to be put in any future fans forum. Not hindsight when I was saying it at the time! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Give it a year and you'll be calling for Jos' head. And so the merry-go-round goes on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 7 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: Give it a year and you'll be calling for Jos' head. And so the merry-go-round goes on. And the negative posters, will be getting a pat on their backs for their foresight. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 26 minutes ago, shez owl said: Change was 6 months too late Totally . It should have happened after the Udders play off defeat . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 There was a poll on here after the defeat to Huddersfield backing Carlos for another season. I think the results in favour of Carlos staying was around 63% (correct me if I'm wrong). Then once the season started or to be more precise, once we lost to Rangers in the pre season, it was Carlos out, time and again. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Arthur Bach Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 For the record. Jos, what a guy... Always have faith in your gaffer, let them do it their way. No doubt the usual suspects will have the knives ready though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Ok then who would you have what would you do? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pale Rider Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 36 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: #SWFC made the change to take Carlos Carvalhal out of the equation and replaced him with Jos Luhukay. This isn't going to go into anything other than to ask the simple question.. Given everything that has happened since Carlos left the club was Mr Chansiri correct to make the change? The name of the game was survival. So the answer is a firm yes. The next chapter will be the key to an appraisal of Jos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CalmJimmers Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 I wanted Carlos to take us up - the first season’s football was sexual. But how do you reside over the mess of a fitness problem he left this season as a professional manager? Think Jos has done a really good job to say a big chunk of his time here he had a second string to work with, of which only Pelupessy was his signing. Got a good feeling about him - but I also had a good feeling about Jay Bothroyd so ya know, not the best gauge. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 13 minutes ago, Arthur Bach said: For the record. Jos, what a guy... Always have faith in your gaffer, let them do it their way. No doubt the usual suspects will have the knives ready though. Yes they will. They've gone underground for the moment but they'll be back if we don't get off to a flyer next season. Personally I'm delighted he's in charge. Not remotely concerned with comparisons with Carlos. He's gone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 1 minute ago, Xxxxxxxxcxcc said: Yes they will. They've gone underground for the moment but they'll be back if we don't get off to a flyer next season. Personally I'm delighted he's in charge. Not remotely concerned with comparisons with Carlos. He's gone. Agreed. Carlos is history now. Time to focus on where we are at now with Jos the boss at the helm. Jos has my full backing. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thoß Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) Lets not forget, we brought CC in as a DoF/coach initially. He was brilliant, and we were all charmed. But, not a long term 'manager'. PS https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Sheffield-Wednesday-sticker-Jos-Luhukay-JOS-WE-CAN/183029460828 Edited April 28, 2018 by thoß Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sticky belly Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 9 minutes ago, CalmJimmers said: But how do you reside over the mess of a fitness problem he left this season as a professional manager? For me this has to leave a serious stain on his reputation. A professional manager that didn’t train his team to the required fitness levels required for a championship season. Absolute basics of football. Edited April 28, 2018 by Sticky belly Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronnie Starling Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 54 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: #SWFC made the change to take Carlos Carvalhal out of the equation and replaced him with Jos Luhukay. This isn't going to go into anything other than to ask the simple question.. Given everything that has happened since Carlos left the club was Mr Chansiri correct to make the change? Absolutely. Jos has had limited resources to work with, has not been afraid to introduce youth, players have played better under him and he has a better points per game ratio than Carvalhal who had the luxury of a pre-season with a full squad of players. Carvalhal seriously underperformed with the resources at his disposal and we are better off without him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Salmonbones Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 (edited) 39 minutes ago, scram said: Not hindsight when I was saying it at the time! What exactly where you saying then? edit: And I mean that genuinely. I spend fits and starts on this forum. Edited April 28, 2018 by HubristicClapper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrickyTrev Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Jos Luhukay has shown clearly he’s the better manager as he slowly but surely repairs the damage done by Carlos. If he’d been appointed in the Summer this season wouldn’t have been the complete and utter wash out it has. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Quist Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Massive upgrade on what we had previously. Has revitalised players that other coaches could not reach. It will depend on what funds/support he gets to revamp squad which will determine how well we do next year. If only given minimal funds i suspect he would get us promoyed in 2 to 3 years as it will take a while to move on some of players we have. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 Carlos was the best manager we ever had, we were just having horrendous luck with injuries which cost us in the end. Unfortunately the kneejerkers couldn’t see past their own conk and pressured Mr C into letting him go. Surprise surprise now that his players are coming back we are bossing games again. Still can’t watch MOTD because it hurts to see all the jeb ends who wanted him gone forced him onto Swansea who are reaping the rewards of our loss. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ronio Posted April 28, 2018 Share Posted April 28, 2018 A big plus for Jos is the fact, he has opened up the door to the academy. It has been long overdue, and has been a joy to watch the youngster's being given the chance to shine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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