dontCallMeOwlCallYou Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 3 minutes ago, clud17 said: Maybe if we hadn't spunked millions on players that rarely play or are not effective when they do play we could have offered him a decent contract with the ability to talk to a big club if they came in for him. I think FFP may have got in the way here and something we could learn from now we have a better academy. We can afford what he was asking, the club are just not been held to ransom. What happens if he actually gets good? He will leave the first chance he gets anyway so why prolong it? He is obviously not interested in staying and helping his home town club progress. He's only a year younger than rashford, and I'll go out on a limb and say he will never play for Manchester uniteds first team week in week out, and he knows that. This is defo not FFP it's principal, vs what can I get now. I completely agree with the club here, footballs gone mad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 It says a lot that he hasn’t played all season but when he does he plays well and even scores. If we had loaned him, played him and offered him much improved terms we would get more compensation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bluesteel Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 40 minutes ago, David1867 said: Good luck to him if this is true. This sort of rules out the "he's chasing money" argument as Manchester United are not one of the teams that chucks ridiculous amounts of money at young players. All the best to him, it's every footballers dream to play for one of the biggest clubs in world football. The only loser over in this whole situation- Sheffield Wednesday. Im sure he will be well paid to be fair Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 57 minutes ago, kazads said: Do you think it could have been avoided... because I don't....David Hirst didn't go to Man UTD it was his choice and I think that was a lot to do with the drinking culture back then ...only my opinion... listening to folks now you would think he didn't have a choice back then ...I'm sure he did...so he wants George to do what he didn't ..good luck to the lad but one wonders if it's the right choice this time ... yes i do Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, clud17 said: Maybe if we hadn't spunked millions on players that rarely play or are not effective when they do play we could have offered him a decent contract with the ability to talk to a big club if they came in for him. I think FFP may have got in the way here and something we could learn from now we have a better academy. Was the contract the club offered to Hirst not a decent contract, then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 47 minutes ago, bigdan2003 said: Yeah I believe that agents / egos and money got in the way. He’s been poorly advised and I have no doubt Wednesday played a part in all of this. They havent engineered a move to Man Utd, they engineered more money. Just so happens Man Utd might be interested now. Fair enough, understand it’s a short career and players have to get what they can. But it doesn’t sit right with me. A kid who’s bagged a load of goals but totally unproven at a senior level. the days of 'short career and players get what they can get' are in the past, top players can earn in one season more than a street full of men can in a lifetime. an average player at a decent mid table championship side, can earn way more in 5 seasons than a decent paid man can in a lifetime, well above any minimum, or living wage chap. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
9CFT Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 George will become the next Nick Powell, will probably follow the same carreer path. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said: Was the contract the club offered to Hirst not a decent contract, then? £9 k Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
areNOTwhatTHEYseem Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: £9 k A) How do you know that? B) How does that compare with our other development squad players? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Adam Reachs left peg Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Let him go doesn’t want to be here Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday-Wonderland Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 I don't get the 'money grabber' argument. Football is a (short) career and you're worth whatever someone is willing to pay you on the open market. If GH knows he can be paid more elsewhere than we're willing to pay (due to youth player pay structure or having spaffed all our money on old, slow crocks) then good luck to the lad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sethman75 Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 (edited) Has there been a single player that Mourinho has brought through the youth setup and not ruined their career? Stupid move at every level Edited April 8, 2018 by sethman75 spell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CE-Owl Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 This is the state of modern football. A young relatively unproven footballer and his agents dictating terms to a club - a foreign owner blundering it in return. The poster who noted how these players can earn more in a year than a working man in his lifetime is spot on. Yet us suckers keep turning up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 20 minutes ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: £9 k You are wrong. Miles off. The contract offer was £3k per week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Umm... he’s out of contract yeah? So all these “megabucks” comments and “let them buy him and loan him back” comments are weird. If true he’s signs, we seek a bit of compensation, he’s quids in, we are not so. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sergeant Tibbs Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, Wednesday-Wonderland said: I don't get the 'money grabber' argument. Football is a (short) career and you're worth whatever someone is willing to pay you on the open market. If GH knows he can be paid more elsewhere than we're willing to pay (due to youth player pay structure or having spaffed all our money on old, slow crocks) then good luck to the lad. Money grabber is applicable because despite being at his supposed boyhood club, despite being offered an annual salary in the region of 500k, he thinks the grass is greener somewhere else. The signing of an ineffective striker on 40k a week mist have been a huge factor. Chansiri has a lot to answer for in this saga. He shouldn't have been held to ransom, but he signed the deal for Rhodes. He allowed CC to run the team, and CC didn't choose to play the lad. He's leaving but I don't think for one minute he'll end up a player at Old Trafford. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SallyCinnamon Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 Good luck to the lad. Its a dream move. Gets to train in some of the best facilities in world football with some of the best coaches. But still think it's a sad indictment of the modern game. Young lad gets huge move to Manchester United before he's even started a competitive game in professional football. He'll probably get loaned out no doubt, but lets face it chances he becomes a regular for the first team is unlikely. The big clubs will continue to spend spend spend to get that advantage over their rivals, young players will have to be exceptionally good to become first team stars for clubs like United nowadays. Also, puts an end to this fairytale of Hirst following his dads footsteps and leading the line for Wednesday. Loyalty and fairytales aren't a thing in modern football, it's dead. All about money. Sad but true. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 If he can get a gig at Man U then good for him. It seems a bit like his dad living his dream through his son but what the hell it wouldn't be the first time a dad did that. Bit creepy though. You can't fault the lads self belief, maybe that's a good thing but I have my doubts he will ever make the first team for them. They can buy the best in the world, it's hard for a lad to get a game when the club buy a ready made world class star. He might have been better serving his time at a lower level Premiership club like Everton who have a history of developing stars. Any way, he goes his way, we go ours, good luck to him. I've nothing against him, can't say I like his dad as much as I did. I don't know all the ins and outs of this saga but I don't think David has covered himself in glory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 2 minutes ago, SallyCinnamon said: Good luck to the lad. Its a dream move. Gets to train in some of the best facilities in world football with some of the best coaches. But still think it's a sad indictment of the modern game. Young lad gets huge move to Manchester United before he's even started a competitive game in professional football. He'll probably get loaned out no doubt, but lets face it chances he becomes a regular for the first team is unlikely. The big clubs will continue to spend spend spend to get that advantage over their rivals, young players will have to be exceptionally good to become first team stars for clubs like United nowadays. Also, puts an end to this fairytale of Hirst following his dads footsteps and leading the line for Wednesday. Loyalty and fairytales aren't a thing in modern football, it's dead. All about money. Sad but true. Easy move for Man United too. They see young England international rotting away in the reserves of a lower division club, out of contract, decent reports from the England camp and his dad repeating the story about how he wished he’d joined Man United and bang, sign him up. At the very worst they will lose a couple of million in wages to the player and a spot of compensation up front to us (but not a lot). If it works out ok they sell him on an recoup their money, if he turns out to be a worldly they’ve taken a chance and reaped a reward. Makes perfect sense all round. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
poite Posted April 8, 2018 Share Posted April 8, 2018 1 hour ago, welsOwl74 said: F**k him only interested in players who want to play football not chase the cash Yeah. Cos staying here was getting him loads of opportunities to play. We're a total joke of club who are run as badly as pretty much any club I can think of. Good luck to George. Can't blame him for wanted to be as far away from us as possible. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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