adelphi1867 Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 He is only saying what posters on here have said over the last 2 seasons, so why get upset by it?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BRADDO Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 We don't really need an inquest. We need the basics, ie, a demanding pre-season, in-depth injury management and proper coaching. I think it's already evident that these things are in place under Jos. The question is, will Jos be here next season to continue the good work? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 See the usual clappers just want us to bury our head in the sand as usual and pretend everything’s been great. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) No inquiry is needed. This is just a Carlos witch hunt. He is gone. It is the past. Sports science will probably tell you how to train for top level football. There maybe more than one theory. It will probably tell you that under or over training, or following a certain regime may statistically increase the likelihood of injury. It would be very difficult to prove causality between any given specific injury and the training regime followed. Thus, any inquiry would be unlikely to provide anything conclusive or useful. The way forward would still be to follow a tried and tested training regime. Edited April 5, 2018 by OxonOwl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, OxonOwl said: No inquiry is needed. This is just a Carlos witch hunt. There's some proper paranoia on this point To say it's a Carlos witch hunt is as bizarre as it is inaccurate Unless of course the general consensus is that it was only, purely and SOLELY Carlos that caused all these horrific injuries? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LiamAP22D Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, bladeshater said: But he is right He certainly is. it's been a disgrace. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) I was very tempted to turn off the commentary - just way too negative is our Jon Edited April 5, 2018 by Spookone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 (edited) Utterly bored of Newsome. The player interviews over a month ago suggested this had already happened. Finger on the pulse of S6, Jon. Edited April 5, 2018 by cookeh Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, cookeh said: Utterly bored of Newsome. Dont' click into Newsome threads then Sorted Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Just now, @owlstalk said: Dont' click into Newsome threads then Sorted If i hadn't i wouldn't have realised i was so bored of him being about 6 weeks behind the news. ;p 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 we need a poll .....A ).do fans think the club have looked into and come up with a solution to remedy the amount of injuries we've incurred ...... B) . buried there head in the sand and carried on regardless i'm certain(unless jos is inept) they have looked into the reasons why .....that they've not told the local rag./media is probably irking the journo's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted April 5, 2018 Author Share Posted April 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, torryowl said: .....that they've not told the local rag./media is probably irking the journo's. WTF?!?! Seriously?±? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: There's some proper paranoia on this point To say it's a Carlos witch hunt is as bizarre as it is inaccurate Unless of course the general consensus is that it was only, purely and SOLELY Carlos that caused all these horrific injuries? It is not really paranoia unless I am Carlos. It is hardly bizarre as there are posts on here saying that the problem stops with the manager and there are plenty of posts in other threads where Carlos is blamed for the injuries and some have gone as far as saying it was intentional. It is not a consensus but there are significant numbers of people who post on this site who blame Carlos for the number and severity of injuries. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Big Jack Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Ok Jon you can do the mot's in future. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
wakefieldowl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 2 hours ago, @owlstalk said: Let's not get into slating the person who made the point and stick to discussing the subject instead Good point. some very grumpy people on here today. Why the nastiness? Given we have lost fox and hutch for the season this week, why do you all think it has completely changed and no further investigation required Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 1 minute ago, OxonOwl said: as it is inaccurate It is my opinion and as for it being inaccurate, that is only your opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OWLERTON GHOST Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 20 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: There's some proper paranoia on this point To say it's a Carlos witch hunt is as bizarre as it is inaccurate Unless of course the general consensus is that it was only, purely and SOLELY Carlos that caused all these horrific injuries? He was manager of our club when these injuries happened . His responsibility.. if it wasn't .. What the bloody hell did we employ him to do ? It laid well and truly at his feet Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 10 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: WTF?!?! Seriously?±? I stand corrected if they have told them they have looked into ........so if they have told the local rag why is newsome asking for an "inquest" .? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 Sadly, local journalism has been eviscerated in recent years. It's not that newsome's comments are necessarily wrong. Just that they don't particularly carry any insight. I'd like to see some proper analyticals on this - in particular how bad really have our injury problems been compared to other clubs'? This season? Last three seasons? Maybe some simple metrics of no of incidences of a player being out for a month; and unit incidents of players missing a game. My hunch is that this would look really bad for us this season, but not stand out several standard deviations away bad; and less bad the previous three. There is a hell of a lot of confirmation bias, inevitably, in what most of us perceive. That's quite a lot of work and the data will be imperfect. But an intern with fairly basic skills should be able to come up with something in a week. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
thewookieisdown Posted April 5, 2018 Share Posted April 5, 2018 3 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said: He was manager of our club when these injuries happened . His responsibility.. if it wasn't .. What the bloody hell did we employ him to do ? It laid well and truly at his feet Good grief. In recent weeks Matias, Fox, Clare, Hutchinson have all sustained injuries that have kept them put for weeks. These are not in any meaningful sense Jos's responsibility. Good grief. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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