dorian gray Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, upperwinngardensowl said: I can only comment on the English clubs on that list Arsenal - Highbury was operating at capacity. haven’t won the title since as had to pay back the cost for years Man City - gazillions of foreign investment, ground already too small, got it for next to nowt due to commonwealth games Southampton - tiny ground operating at capacity, billionaire backers West Ham - operating at capacity, got it for nowt. Fans wish it had never happened bang on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howards back Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, LSOwls said: I do still think there is a load of room to expand; particuarly the kop. Build back to penistone road and a 'fan bar' on the Wednesdayite Car Park I like the fan bar idea. I’d also have the ticket office and the shop across the road. Then build restaurants where the ticket office is now, the top floor making a concourse for the north stand Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 28 minutes ago, steveger said: Manvers.... what's the roads like out that way? i'm going for lunch at the manvers arms and wondering which car to take? help us out here will ya? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) 4 minutes ago, dnhc said: what's the roads like out that way? i'm going for lunch at the manvers arms and wondering which car to take? help us out here will ya? all roads here in Mexborough seem to be clear so i guess Manvers should be pretty much the same, just a guess though mate Edited March 18, 2018 by steveger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls101 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 12 minutes ago, brazilowl said: If by forms of finance you mean loans the interest we would have to pay would outweigh any increased revenue. And you know this how? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheOwlsofDodworth Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 A properly designed ground at Neepsend would be perfect. Kelham island and potentially the new ski village complex. Would be a good little boom. Purely fantasy land all this ground talk but it's fun to imagine isn't it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 4 hours ago, whatdial said: Why bother talking about this it won’t happen as we can’t afford it Who says? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Somewhere in the city centre/Meadowhall for good business and transport sense Modern football and stadiums are a 7 day a week business now and Hillsborough area aint exactly as appealing as a commercial income compared to somewhere more central Edited March 18, 2018 by steveger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 9 minutes ago, dnhc said: what's the roads like out that way? i'm going for lunch at the manvers arms and wondering which car to take? help us out here will ya? Aint the Manvers Arms at Adwick though ? could be totally different situation down there ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
upperwinngardensowl Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Regarding these theoretical extra fans and non match day revenue, West Ham, despite getting the new ground for nowt, despite 20,000 more fans per home match attending (Upton park always sold out), have said the increased revenue amounts to 1.5 Gary Madines. Edited March 18, 2018 by upperwinngardensowl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owls101 Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, dnhc said: who pays for it? the crowd at present is limited because people are objecting to paying huge increases in seat prices, even season ticket holders are complaining now. it's staggering the number of football fans who understand the complexities of finance, it's a wonder they're not the governor of the bank of england. building the north stand knocked the club back for decades, what the hell will the cost of a ground do?, and who do we sell the present hillsborough site to the water board? they could use it as a reservoir first time it rains heavy. The north stand was built in the 60s hardly a like for like comparison Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 (edited) Would love to see a breakdown on our hire/commercial income such as private functions,weddings,meetings, conferences etc compared to places like the Keepmoat and New York Stadium, people keep reckoning they are miles ahead off us in these departments... Been to the keepmoat (conference rooms) for an employment event and it was fresh,modern and looked well to be honest compared to our outdated WMC looking facilities... This aint just about the football facilities these days Edited March 18, 2018 by steveger Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Howards back Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, owls101 said: And you know this how? Pride Park cost £28 mill in 1997 so what are we looking at paying in today’s prices £50 mill ? and all we would get for that is a bog standard ground not Arsenals Work out the interest on that and it comes to a few bob Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 16 minutes ago, LSOwls said: I do still think there is a load of room to expand; particuarly the kop. Build back to penistone road and a 'fan bar' on the Wednesdayite Car Park I think the whole area that the ground sits within is inefficiently developed. This is partly down to the piecemeal development over the last 60 years. Whilst I think the kop is a great traditional 'end', you really can't call it a stand, rather than an embankment with a random selection of seating, some of which are restricted views. The back of the stand is bizarre at best, shocking at worst, in it provides no or little facilities. In my view, it needs totalling remodelling, and i'd take the roof off and start again using the land parallel to Penistone as you show in the drawing. The problem is at present that the North side of the stand's seating essentially borders road with little options. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, steveger said: Would love to see a breakdown on our hire/commercial income such as private functions,weddings,meetings, conferences etc compared to places like the Keepmoat and New York Stadium, people keep reckoning they are miles ahead off us in these departments... Been to the keepmoat (conference rooms) for an employment event and it was fresh,modern and looked well to be honest comapred to our outdated WMC looking facilities Same; would be a great comparison This is an emotive subject but if you take emotion out of it I think it's logical to move; as much as I love Hillsborough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 14 minutes ago, steveger said: all roads here in Mexborough seem to be clear so i guess Manvers should be pretty much the same, just a guess though mate cheers Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the monk Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 hour ago, casbahowl said: S6 1SW ........ End of thread. Imho ! So you are not keen on going to the east end near the motorway? What about the 300 away fans that come, it would be convenient for them! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 2 minutes ago, steveger said: Would love to see a breakdown on our hire/commercial income such as private functions,weddings,meetings, conferences etc compared to places like the Keepmoat and New York Stadium, people keep reckoning they are miles ahead off us in these departments... Been to the keepmoat (conference rooms) for an employment event and it was fresh,modern and looked well to be honest comapred to our outdated WMC looking facilities It's the wrong area for commercial/business events - Bramhall Lane captures that market unfortunately. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 Just now, LSOwls said: Same; would be a great comparison This is an emotive subject but if you take emotion out of it I think it's logical to move; as much as I love Hillsborough Exactly mate, our club would struggle to survive on just football income without the money injection from the owner, we need to be self sufficient moving into the future IMO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
casbahowl Posted March 18, 2018 Share Posted March 18, 2018 1 minute ago, the monk said: So you are not keen on going to the east end near the motorway? What about the 300 away fans that come, it would be convenient for them! Never thought of them ...... I’m so me me me today ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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