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The record books show our highest attendance at Hillsborough was the 17th of February 1934, when 72, 841 fans packed into the ground to see us take on Manchester City in the FA Cup. What the record books don’t often show is that the same game witnessed an ominous and foreboding death of a fan, George Frederick Hill, on Leppings Lane.

 

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In the following months it was proposed that the club should move away from Hillsborough and into the city centre or close to it. Knowing what we know now when reading the report into the proposal it seems bizarre to me that no mention of the crowd size, recent death and problems related to safety firmed even part of the proposal.

 

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Should we have moved then? Should we move now?

 

I personally think (as much as I love the ground) it is time. Too much negativity is connected to the ground, far too much tragedy. No amount of golden elephants will change that.

 

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I'd like to see us leave Hillsborough to be honest the atmosphere is crap and it's a relic, but no point till we are in the premier

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Thanks to the op for sharing the  newspaper cuttings. 

 

If we were stating again I don't think anybody would build a ground at Hillsborough. But we are not starting again, our roots and core support is based in North Sheffield and on that basis if we can redevelop Hillsborough to something like the world cup 2018 plans I think we should stay where we now belong. 

 

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13 minutes ago, Fairy Tail Owl said:

I'd like to see us leave Hillsborough to be honest the atmosphere is crap and it's a relic, but no point till we are in the premier

 

The atmosphere or lack of it is the fault of the fans 

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1 minute ago, pgmetcalf said:

 

The atmosphere or lack of it is the fault of the fans 

 

The atmosphere is the fault of having a crap team for 20 years 

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£30 million on redevelopment of Hillsborough to the world cup plan OR take the chance on acquiring a plot of land we would be happy with (probably be perched more out of town than now, with only good motorway links to call owt) and building a stadium. Recall someone saying a new set up would cost around £150 million. Unless the council miraculously found us a building plot in the Kelham island area that would help regenerate the 'northern gateway into Sheffield' (definitely a possibility) for a low lease hold price, then I'll stick to Hillsborough. 

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I’d rather redevelop Hillsborough thanks. F00k everyone and their negativity towards our ground. I’d hate to have one of these Lego bowl type grounds. 

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Bet if you have the time you can find stories in the newspapers of every major ground having the odd fan crushed to death in days gone by. 

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5 hours ago, quinnssweetshop said:

Things were different in 1934

 

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not that different ....."one fan couldnt get over the fact we had been beaten twice by Man City , another that we had been beaten by Sheffield United ...they brooded over it ..."

some things never change ...must have been the fore fathers of the doom merchants on here !!

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Both Sheffield clubs missed a trick 30 years ago. Both grounds were tired, there were acres of land going just off the Parkway near Handsworth - the old Orgreave Site. They could have built a stadium shared by both teams, like Milan. Plenty of parking, just off the motorway, shared expenses, let it out for concerts etc. Could have been state of the art. So we are where we are.

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Why do people keep dredging this subject up?

Other players, managers, commentators, and fans say what a great ground it is (unless they are pigs)....and the atmosphere can be fantastic. It just needs tarting up a bit as parts of it (Lep especially) look tired. Not many grounds have a better façade than Hillsborough from the outside walking across the South Stand Bridge.

Its got excellent links to public transport and loads of its fan base walk there (i.e. me).

To move so that some people can park their car easier and have a better half time "experience", after putting ourselves into massive debt building the sodddin place, would make no sense

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Interesting article - love the quote about fans taking football too seriously.

 

I wonder why they thought the grass wouldn't grow in the city centre - possibly smog?

 

I always thought the move to Hillsborough was a strange decision in 1899 when as Turner said in the article, most of the surrounding (now) suburban areas were fields and parks. It must have been difficult to get most of the current supporters based around Highfield/Heeley over to Owlerton - no one had cars, and i expect the tram system was basic. The fact that they thought of moving closer to centre some 30 odd years later must have been in part to counter dem blades in getting a share of supporters, as the city expanded.

 

In terms of moving now, it's been done to death on here, and most assume DC is seriously looking at it, but football is a very different prospect to the 1930s. Land is difficult to find, particularly the size needed to create a modern, all-purpose sport and leisure facility, which is what would be needed to gain the revenue to pay the build costs.I think we'll stay, certainly for the short and medium term. 

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It needs some serious renovation or we need to move but like has been said DC won't sanction it till we are in the PL. It's a shame though because one of the things that can help with FFP is turnover and we are still light years behind similar sized clubs.

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Couple of interesting bits further down the article.

oldest clubs - 

Sheffield FC

Notts County

Stoke City

Sheffield Wednesday

 

is this now the accepted chronology?

 

Was William Clegg a forefather of the knobby politician?  

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4 minutes ago, peacock1961 said:

Couple of interesting bits further down the article.

oldest clubs - 

Sheffield FC

Notts County

Stoke City

Sheffield Wednesday

 

is this now the accepted chronology?

 

Was William Clegg a forefather of the knobby politician?  

 

Think Nottingham Forest and Chesterfield should be on that list as older then Sheffield Wednesday.

Although I Chesterfield being formed in 1866 is disputed a bit.

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The pigs would have loved that if we had moved to the slums, we'd be called the slummers, or would they have still copied us?

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