steveger Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 33 minutes ago, Hookowl said: Couple of teams supporters north of the border would not be happy with that. Just saying And a lot of them are gradually waking up to getting away from the whole religion bull, but not enough and not quick enough, it will die out eventually with the older generations who still persist with it, i woke up to it, now i just despise them for who they are and nothing to do with religion, just because they are rabid scrubbers now instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, briggowl said: That's quite an opinion. Well I confess to being weak and needing God in my life. Can you offer anything other than synicsm as an alternative to those who are so weak and believe there might be something more to life? I mean anything? So all we can offer the weak is a made up concept? Surely we can do better than a myth? something which has never been demonstrated or any evidence ever been produced for its existence. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I am my own God, people will kneel down to me, I am the way.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 (edited) Imo there’s no room for religion in life full stop Its just outdated beliefs based on old stories which breeds hate and violence and divides and human race Edited March 13, 2018 by Stoop 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Greengrass Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Anyone Jedi ? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggowl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 21 minutes ago, The only way is S6 said: No, sorry. Because there's nothing 'out there' imo. No 'higher power'. Faith & belief don't justify that there is. Heaven is defined as the abode of God. So, where is it exactly? Religious people don't live any longer, avoid diseases, stress or heartache, or illness, or go anywhere better after they die imo. It's not a cynical view, I don't think. Realistic, maybe? The war, death, natural disaster, famine analogy sums it up for me personally. Why would an (albeit fictional) loving, kind, all seeing, all knowing, omnipotent deity allow that to happen to 'it's' followers? It wouldn't. Or is that the work of the devil? I mean, really, the devil? As Mozza said, the church, all they want is your money. Ok but that last bit is cynical. lol. We'll not agree on this so UTO!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I have been known to shout "Christ almighty Wednesday" over the years. WTF!? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Just now, Stoop said: Imo there’s no room for religion in life full stop Its just outdated beliefs based on old stories which breeds hate and violence that divides and human race But despite that, you still, believe in god, in your darkest moments you ask for his guidance. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, briggowl said: Ok but that last bit is cynical. lol. We'll not agree on this so UTO!!! Fair enough. UTO. Keep the faith. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Swiss Toni Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, Sonny said: I thought I'd seen him somewhere before (Big Trouble In Little China) 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
briggowl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 3 minutes ago, Watson said: So all we can offer the weak is a made up concept? Surely we can do better than a myth? something which has never been demonstrated or any evidence ever been produced for its existence. You'd do well to study Jesus. Honestly he's the evidence for my beliefs. I mean like proper look into his life and claims, not just take the p155 in an 8 out of 10 cats popularist comedian style. Anyway I respect your opinion but I want people to know I believe in the hope of life after death and something greater than merely what we can see. Up The Owls - 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, briggowl said: You'd do well to study Jesus. Honestly he's the evidence for my beliefs. I mean like proper look into his life and claims, not just take the p155 in an 8 out of 10 cats popularist comedian style. Anyway I respect your opinion but I want people to know I believe in the hope of life after death and something greater than merely what we can see. Up The Owls - Could he do a job for us? Don't think anyone is taking the p*ss just a different view point mate. WTF!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scilly owl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 We could do with God playing for us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Inspector Lestrade Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, briggowl said: You'd do well to study Jesus. Honestly he's the evidence for my beliefs. I mean like proper look into his life and claims, not just take the p155 in an 8 out of 10 cats popularist comedian style. Anyway I respect your opinion but I want people to know I believe in the hope of life after death and something greater than merely what we can see. Up The Owls - Can you demonstrate he even existed? Claims without evidence are merely that, claims. We can believe whatever we wish but it doesn't make them true. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 I have always suspected that half the players that do the cross signal have no idea it is a religious symbol The Mo Salah song the Liverpool fans do could easily be construed as a bit rascist but seems to be deemed acceptable Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lukestheman82 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, briggowl said: That's quite an opinion. Well I confess to being weak and needing God in my life. Can you offer anything other than synicsm as an alternative to those who are so weak and believe there might be something more to life? I mean anything? To be fair, can you offer any factual reason to believe in a God? Don't get me wrong, I respect your views btw. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 minute ago, mkowl said: I have always suspected that half the players that do the cross signal have no idea it is a religious symbol The Mo Salah song the Liverpool fans do could easily be construed as a bit rascist but seems to be deemed acceptable I used to shout heil Hitler as I was taking a pen...does that make me a bad person? WTF!? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mountain Owl Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Religion causes most of the worlds problems especially wars. I am an atheist and I can''t be doing with other people's beliefs being rammed down my throat. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 Stuff religion, the root cause of social pestilence throughout millennia. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np pontefract Posted March 13, 2018 Share Posted March 13, 2018 1 hour ago, briggowl said: That's quite an opinion. Well I confess to being weak and needing God in my life. Can you offer anything other than synicsm as an alternative to those who are so weak and believe there might be something more to life? I mean anything? Have you looked into Humanism, Brigg owl ? If not, might I suggest you have a look at the Humanist UK site. It certainly makes sense to me. All the best. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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