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17 hours ago, samowl said:

Even just a little bit of a reaction please. A bit like Rowett today at Forest. Let someone know you're there and you care Jos

 

Clump Clump Clump go the jackboots again, hand over heart before kick off and make them walk out to Rule Brittania etc

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7 minutes ago, Glenn59 said:

Agreed waving your arms about like some smackhead overdosing might not work, as Conte has shown but you have to say our manager sets new standards for being dour and dull. Imagine him doing the Agincort speech....we'd all be speaking fluent Frog by now

 

But we’re not firing arrows at each other 

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cool Dutchman with a bit of style ....no matter how inane the questioning when he's doing the media stuff he keep's a dead pan face and calmly answers the question .whether he drops the coolness in the dressing room and rips into them I don't know but when he arrived he came with a reputation of being a disciplinarian and strong on principles .....I like him and hope that when we get a few more back he can get the results to convince chansiri to keep here for  next season . .....

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the very notion that posters think that jos waiving his arms around would make him a better manager is quite frankly absurd.

However, over the past few weeks the team has been making numerous errors on the field and not once has Jos been seen to be geeing them up, barking out instructions or just plain showing some kind of emotion.

Thats what rankles with me.

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3 hours ago, thewookieisdown said:

No it isn't.  It is neither better nor worse.  The amount of movement or gesticulating by a manager in game is wholly irrelevant.

 

 

 

Yes it is, if the manager has no fight, the players wont. Its like at work, if the manager doesnt get stuck in and is lazy, his employees will likely not get stuck in. 

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20 hours ago, frastheowl said:

 

All that PASHUN Rowett showed today (I haven't seen the game)...just how many more points did it collect more than Jos this weekend?

 

This PASHUN nonsense is utterly ridiculous.

 

The players are giving their all...they cannot be faulted for their work rate. We aren't winning games, because we aren't very good.

 

Motivation simply isn't the issue. It's bonkers to suggest it is.

 

At the end of the game, we had players down on their haunches, Pudil lying down...they were devastated they drew the game. They can be criticised for poor performances, making poor decisions, slipping at the key time, not stopping a cross coming into the box...but no way can the players be criticised for not trying or caring. And that goes for the manager also.

Did Reach give it his all to stop that cross coming in?

 

A manager showing more on the touchline can be enough with players liable to switch off to stay switched on.

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4 hours ago, vulture_squadron said:

Anyone remember Dave Jones? Just stood there while we went on that unbeaten run and pipped Utd to promotion. If only he's waved his arms a bit we'd have overtaken Charlton too.

Equally he just stood there when we were dreadful for a few years too.

 

When the team is doing well you don't expect a manager to be vocal and all over the place, when a team is doing bad the fans want to see a manager actively trying to change things for the better. If that is given a full back a verbal then so be it.

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It’s more about enthusiasm and motivation, than passion. My own view is players would prefer to play under managers like Klopp, Warnock, Big Sam Dyche, Howe etc, who shout orders AND encouragement from the sidelines. Than they would like to play for a manager who stands still with his hands in his pockets whilst looking like his mrs’ has forgotten to collect him from work, again 

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1 hour ago, AracdianDreamer said:

Did Reach give it his all to stop that cross coming in?

 

A manager showing more on the touchline can be enough with players liable to switch off to stay switched on.

 

So now we're saying Reach doesn't care?!

 

When will it stop? 

 

We've now decided the only serious contender for player of the season doesn't care. One of the few players available presently capable of creating something from nothing doesn't care. 

 

All because he failed to prevent a cross coming.

 

Of course...every cross that makes its way into the box is a direct result of the relevant defender not "giving his all."

 

Nothing to do with the fact, he was playing centre midfield and had to cover a lot of ground to get across to left back. Or the fact he'd ran his b0llocks off and it might have been tiredness. Or the fact, he isn't a defender. Or maybe...occasionally, wingers just happen to get crosses into the box.

 

I despair. I really do. 

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1 hour ago, AracdianDreamer said:

Equally he just stood there when we were dreadful for a few years too.

 

When the team is doing well you don't expect a manager to be vocal and all over the place, when a team is doing bad the fans want to see a manager actively trying to change things for the better. If that is given a full back a verbal then so be it.

 

Or maybe...

 

The manager's demeanour on the sidelines has no effect on performance.

 

Nah...of course not. 

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On 3/11/2018 at 16:33, sonofbert2 said:

The fella who was so cool, calm and collected in the cauldron of the derby match in his debut game as all of a sudden become a manager who doesn't care???

Thats Owlstalk for yer. 

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He might not jump around waving his arms like Megson or Carlos. But this notion that all he ever does is sit down and does nowt is absolute gonads. I’m not sure what people want him to do. Do we had such needy fans that all they want to see is someone gum flapping on the touch line to demonstrate he cares? 

 

Criticise him for tactics or subs or whatever. But this stuff about pashun is just desperate nonsense. 

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16 hours ago, CLswfc said:

Thats Owlstalk for yer. 

Can't remember us making too many mistakes in that game to warrant Jos barking at them

However, during the past month or so the team has been making school boy errors and our leader just stands there.

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38 minutes ago, Bulgaria said:

Can't remember us making too many mistakes in that game to warrant Jos barking at them

However, during the past month or so the team has been making school boy errors and our leader just stands there.

 

Perhaps he should rant and rave at a player every time there's a misplaced pass.

 

Does wonders for confidence.

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