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44 minutes ago, Hitcat said:

 

Having said that, I couldn't really care less about the Westwood rumour either way. Whatever happens he should be sold while we can demand a relatively decent fee.

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1 hour ago, @owlstalk said:



Why is this even being discussed when there's been no article at all?

 

lol

 

Gotta say, my inference from Jon Buchan's knowing response is that there's something init.

 

He also boxed in Jos on this point in post -match interview- and covered Radio Sheff's back side.

 

It matters if we are being told porkies all season and , for me, deciding to spend £150 with club for 3 Easter guests against Preston.

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2 minutes ago, Hitcat said:

 

Having said that, I couldn't really care less about the Westwood rumour either way. Whatever happens he should be sold while we can demand a relatively decent fee.

Have to disagree pal, with a fit Westwood we’d be a good 6 points better off ..... having said that GK is our strong suit !

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8 hours ago, sheffwed4ever said:

Wow just wow. How people can beleive any of this is beyond me. We are talking serious allegations here, Fraud really. There injured!!! End of story 

Did you say Fraud ?

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1 hour ago, zzmdu said:

 

Yep I've read the ROI release.

 

They believe Westwood has a chance of being fit for an international squad in 1 weeks time; yet we've had no news/signs that he is ready for the SWFC squad.

 

Not odd at all coupled with many rumours that all is not right between KW & SWFC.

Katriene Miere brought this up at the Steering Group- I'm not 100% certain, but I thought she said they'd asked the ROI to clear things up after the rumour mill started when the squad was announced- hence this statement.

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1 hour ago, zzmdu said:

They have been a few rumours over the last 2 months that SWFC & KW have fallen out.

 

I don't believe them. With the ROI believing KW may be fit enough to make their squad; I fully expect to see Westwood back playing for us.

 

Is it just the usual rumour-mongers on here, or is there anything with a bit more substance to it?

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Before a player joins up with his national team his club will have to send off a form declaring him fit - or otherwise...

 

It is entirely up to the national team whether they require a player to attend for assessment even if not declared fit. 

 

Maybe Ireland believe KW close enough to full fitness that by the time off the training camp he will be fit so are keeping him in the squad?

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3 minutes ago, scram said:

Before a player joins up with his national team his club will have to send off a form declaring him fit - or otherwise...

 

It is entirely up to the national team whether they require a player to attend for assessment even if not declared fit. 

 

Maybe Ireland believe KW close enough to full fitness that by the time off the training camp he will be fit so are keeping him in the squad?

makes sense does that

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13 minutes ago, scram said:

Before a player joins up with his national team his club will have to send off a form declaring him fit - or otherwise...

 

It is entirely up to the national team whether they require a player to attend for assessment even if not declared fit. 

 

Maybe Ireland believe KW close enough to full fitness that by the time off the training camp he will be fit so are keeping him in the squad?

 

Isn’t it also the case that the club can not refuse a player being called up for assessment to the national squad Scram?

 

Which again makes sense, if Westwood is close to returning to training properly they want to run the rule over him themselves.

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Only under very specific and specialised circumstances can a club refuse a player attending for assessment at an international call up

 

The national association holds the power in that relationship

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Just now, scram said:

Only under very specific and specialised circumstances can a club refuse a player attending for assessment at an international call up

 

The national association holds the power in that relationship

 

Cheers. Just what I thought.

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On 10/03/2018 at 19:11, sherlyegg said:

The theory is we can easily stay up without em

Unfortunately reality us usually different to theory 

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5 hours ago, zzmdu said:

Yep I've read the ROI release.

 

They believe Westwood has a chance of being fit for an international squad in 1 weeks time; yet we've had no news/signs that he is ready for the SWFC squad.

 

Not odd at all coupled with many rumours that all is not right between KW & SWFC.

 

All seems to be moving in the right direction, no?

 

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1 hour ago, Will69 said:

 

Isn’t it also the case that the club can not refuse a player being called up for assessment to the national squad Scram?

 

Which again makes sense, if Westwood is close to returning to training properly they want to run the rule over him themselves.

So how do the big boys get away with it.  For years the big clubs have pulled their players out of friendly internationals, yet the players in question have played the last and next club games 

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Just now, Blueblood said:

So how do the big boys get away with it.  For years the big clubs have pulled their players out of friendly internationals, yet the players in question have played the last and next club games 

 

Clubs can’t (or to be more accurate mostly can’t) withdraw a player from an international squad. It’s as simple as that. Big clubs don’t have special dispensation, all clubs are subject to the same rules.

 

Clubs can request the players FA to sparingly use them, or provide medical proof etc. Most international associations will want good relationships with clubs so will work with them.

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31 minutes ago, areNOTwhatTHEYseem said:

 

All seems to be moving in the right direction, no?

 

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Yes exactly; the more players come back & play for the team; the more the rumours look incorrect.

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4 hours ago, casbahowl said:

Have to disagree pal, with a fit Westwood we’d be a good 6 points better off ..... having said that GK is our strong suit !

Impossible to say...he might not have dropped the testicles widsmith has but he might not have made some of the saves he has either

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2 minutes ago, zzmdu said:

 

Yes exactly; the more players come back & play for the team; the more the rumours look incorrect.

 

So now Westwood has backed up the claim by the FAI that he is nearing being ready for playing are you accepting the daft conspiracy theory about him falling out with us and being held back from playing and him not wanting to play etc are all proven to be rubbish?

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29 minutes ago, Will69 said:

 

Clubs can’t (or to be more accurate mostly can’t) withdraw a player from an international squad. It’s as simple as that. Big clubs don’t have special dispensation, all clubs are subject to the same rules.

 

Clubs can request the players FA to sparingly use them, or provide medical proof etc. Most international associations will want good relationships with clubs so will work with them.

 

 

This is correct

 

FIFA and UEFA rules state that any player reported to be injured may be compelled by the national association to attend for medical assessment by the national medical staff - the clubs cannot refuse if the association demands the player attend

 

There are very very few exceptions and would generally relate to a player having emergency medical treatment, having a serious illness or a life crisis such as bereavement etc

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1 minute ago, scram said:

 

 

This is correct

 

FIFA and UEFA rules state that any player reported to be injured may be compelled by the national association to attend for medical assessment by the national medical staff - the clubs cannot refuse if the association demands the player attend

 

There are very very few exceptions and would generally relate to a player having emergency medical treatment, having a serious illness or a life crisis such as bereavement etc

 

Cheers @scram

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