Guest Theboylangers Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, ny owl said: Thankfully Carlos secured us enough points to keep us safe before he was hounded out by keyboard wielding villagers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 5 hours ago, cookeh said: So, there's been some murmurings because of our form, so let's look at who else is in the relegation fight with 10 games to go. #24 Sunderland. 9 points behind us with a much worse goal difference, so 10 points needed to overtake us. Still to play 3 teams in the fight for promotion: Derby (a), Fulham (a) and Wolves (h). Unlikely to get anything from those. Also playing Preston, Leeds and Norwich. Unlikely to get anything there either. Games against us, Burton, QPR and Reading look their best hope, but there's 0% chance of them overtaking us. With 8 points form their last 5 home and away games, and given their remaining fixtures, they're certs for relegation. #23 Burton 8 points behind us with a much worse goal difference, so 9 points needed to overtake us. Brutal fixtures remaining: Bristol, United, Wolves, Cardiff, Boro, Preston and Derby. All likely to give no points, given Burton's results. 4 games they have a shot at: Birmingham (a), Hull (h), Sunderland (a) and Bolton (h). Bolton has found some form, and even if they win all three of the other games they're unlikely to overtake us (we'd need 1 draw and 9 losses to stay ahead). For me they're nailed on to go down as well. They have a little hop as thyey seem to get the odd result against relegation rivals, but their run-in is horrible. #22 Birmingham 7 points behind us with a much worse goal difference, so 8 points needed to overtake us. Still to play Cardiff, Bristol, Wolves, United, and Fulham. No points likely there. Currently on 6 straight losses, which could easily become 10 given their fixtures. From the relegation teams they play: Hull (h), Bolton (a) and Burton (h). Their home for is awful tho and Bolton are the side in form. Looking really likely to not get out of the relegation spots. #21 Barnsley 5 points behind us with a slightly worse goal difference, so maybe only 5 points needed to overtake us. Still to play Cardiff, Bristol, United and Derby. But then have a lot of middle of the road sides who will have nothing to play for and so might give up a point or 3. Can see they sneaking a handful of points and should still be in the league next season. #20 Hull 4 points behind us with a better goal difference, so 4 points needed to overtake us. Tough games remaining: Villa, Wolves, Bristol, Cardiff. But despite being one of the worst teams away from home, they can spring the odd weird result. Should keep them clear of the drop. #19 Reading 3 points behind us with a better goal difference, so 3 points needed to overtake us. Despite their dreadful home form they're piecing draw together and so should pick up enough to stay clear. Their remaining fixture are mostly middle of the road teams who don't have much to play for. #18 Bolton 2 points behind us with a much worse goal difference, so 3 points needed to overtake us. Have started picking up the odd win at home and some away draws. Yet to play Villa, Derby and Wolves, but have 4 relegation 6 pointers, which on recent form they do well in. Should be well clear really. Likely to finish above us. #17 Wednesday Looking very likely that 40 points will see a team safe and we're only 3 points off that. Even with our recent terrible form it looks like we'll finish 18, barring an amazing turn around by one of the bottom clubs. The odds on all of them pulling off a turnaround seem pretty long (with Bolton already seeming to be on theirs). We have 10 games left and if we pick up even just a few draws in that time then we should be good to stay up. After that the reset button is pushed, dead wood let go, big players back fit, the whole squad doing proper training and next season can be very different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The only way is S6 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 22 minutes ago, McRightSide said: The one thing to keep in mind is that towards the end of the season it's extremely common for teams at the bottom to hit an out of character run of form. So that could apply to us then? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Whitechapel Owl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, Mickjj said: Wow Peterborough were relegated with 54 points!! That season was crazy, Peterborough won 15 games and went down, Palace won 19 and got promoted! Derby finished 10th but only 7 points clear of relegation. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2012–13_Football_League_Championship Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJMortimer Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 35 minutes ago, rickygoo said: I think we’ll survive because loads of teams are terrible. Not a great accolade for a celebratory season but at least we had Cakeball. Someone pointed out a pretty amazing statistic after the Ipswich defeat that sums up just how bad the teams at the bottom have been (and we've beaten none of them in the league this season yet). When Luhukay took over we were 6 points clear of the relegation zone. Ten league games have gone since then and we have won only one of them. Despite that, we are now 7 points above the bottom three. In another season, we could easily be down there by now. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Regulator Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 26 minutes ago, DJMortimer said: Someone pointed out a pretty amazing statistic after the Ipswich defeat that sums up just how bad the teams at the bottom have been (and we've beaten none of them in the league this season yet). When Luhukay took over we were 6 points clear of the relegation zone. Ten league games have gone since then and we have won only one of them. Despite that, we are now 7 points above the bottom three. In another season, we could easily be down there by now. We’ll have been amazingly lucky to stay up. Good job DC stopped us playing in “unlucky” stripes ... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SupremeOwl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, ny owl said: Thankfully Carlos secured us enough points to keep us safe before he was hounded out by keyboard wielding villagers. Lying to us and getting gradually more insane in the process. Regardless of what happens, getting rid of him was one of the few things the club has got right this season. Unfortunately, they ruined this by making the decision too late, hence why we are where we are now. Good riddance to him. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 It'll be low 40s to be safe. We should just scrape that. Got a feeling Birmingham will hit a run before the end to see them safe again. I bet Blackburn and Peterborough can't believe they got relegated on 50+. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Apparently if we play George Hirst we're definitely safe. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
np pontefract Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Experience is a very good Teacher. Experience has taught me that towards the end of the season, some very strange and unpredictable results WILL occur. No room for COMPLACENCY ! We're certainly NOT SAFE YET ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Barnsley were supposed to be superb the other night Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 13 hours ago, slinger208b said: heh yes. barring a massive turnaround by one club we'll be 18th, if there's one club with a turnaround (and it's not us) we'll be 19th.. 2=20ths, 3=down. the odds of 3 (really 4 with bolton) of the bottom 7 clubs suddenly hitting promotion for isn't very high. 2 hours ago, np pontefract said: Experience is a very good Teacher. Experience has taught me that towards the end of the season, some very strange and unpredictable results WILL occur. No room for COMPLACENCY ! We're certainly NOT SAFE YET ! True enough. I'm not saying be complacent, just don't hit the panic button yet. I actually like Jos' approach. No panic, we know we need to get results, we prepare and we go out to try and get those points. To me that's better than having a frightened looking manager tearing his hair out and ranting about how the players have to step up, which is a common scenario at relegation threatened teams. We're not safe, but we're not in big danger yet. So let's go forward and make sure we never are. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 7 hours ago, Orlando_Trustful said: It'll be low 40s to be safe. We should just scrape that. Got a feeling Birmingham will hit a run before the end to see them safe again. I bet Blackburn and Peterborough can't believe they got relegated on 50+. Birmingham are in real trouble for me. Some horrible fixtures. Cardiff, Wolves and Fulham will surely wreck them. Bristol and United should win comfortably. So they only have 5 games to take points from really. Hull, Burton, Ipswich at home. Bolton and QPR away. Right now they're 6 wins on the bounce, scoring once and shipping 13 in those games. Their game at the weekend is away to Cardiff, then come the only three games that will realistically let them get points. I think their fate will be decided sooner rather than later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 (edited) 33 minutes ago, cookeh said: heh yes. barring a massive turnaround by one club we'll be 18th, if there's one club with a turnaround (and it's not us) we'll be 19th.. 2=20ths, 3=down. the odds of 3 (really 4 with bolton) of the bottom 7 clubs suddenly hitting promotion for isn't very high. True enough. I'm not saying be complacent, just don't hit the panic button yet. I actually like Jos' approach. No panic, we know we need to get results, we prepare and we go out to try and get those points. To me that's better than having a frightened looking manager tearing his hair out and ranting about how the players have to step up, which is a common scenario at relegation threatened teams. We're not safe, but we're not in big danger yet. So let's go forward and make sure we never are. I was highlighting it has been mentioned. Curse applied... Edited March 9, 2018 by slinger208b Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
darra Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 The bottom 3 teams are averaging around 0.8 points a game. We are averaging just over a point a game. Statistically over the year teams at the bottom of the league at this time of the season don't tend to improve on that. 43(is) points should see us safe Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 18 hours ago, Mickjj said: Wow Peterborough were relegated with 54 points!! They beat us a couple of games before the end of the season, a load of tramps had a pitch invasion and were goading Wednesdayites that we were going down. Karma 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 Does anyone think we’ll win another game ? It’s a genuine question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cookeh Posted March 9, 2018 Author Share Posted March 9, 2018 2 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Does anyone think we’ll win another game ? It’s a genuine question Absolutely. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 3 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Does anyone think we’ll win another game ? It’s a genuine question Yes, tomorrow Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted March 9, 2018 Share Posted March 9, 2018 6 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Does anyone think we’ll win another game ? It’s a genuine question Lose against Bolton, Sunderland, Hull and Reading. Win at Wolves. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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