gypsyowl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 11 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: I've been to many (too many) I can't do it to myself again this time I was moaning about the questions asked so someone told me to go & stop complaining.........so I did... I'll be going until I'm escorted off the premises Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 3 hours ago, OxOwl said: JOKE SET UP we're making l**ds look a sensible club, cardiffesque almost. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigrbuk Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 hour ago, TaxiMark said: If anyone is going to the meeting tomorrow can they ask him why he is doing this so we know all the facts please . My guess. Someone's pointed out that by preventing him from playing at any level will only decrease his stock. Play him in U23, get him scoring again and his value could be back at £2m. He's worth diddly squat sat on the settee. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sherlyegg Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 15 minutes ago, Walt said: You’re not getting it. I couldn’t give a monkeys about he said / she said, who wants what, and who doesn’t want to pay it. It’s about stopping a player playing football over signing or not signing a new contract. Pathetic. Mate you ain't got it, never mind getting it. You said it was speculation what was said, I pointed out it wasn't. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 I think it's safe to assume if the club arnt telling us what social events they have planned they certainly arnt going to reveal why hirst isn't allowed to play ......it must be a thai cultural thing that chansiri keeps most things to himself . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 8, 2018 Author Share Posted March 8, 2018 19 minutes ago, gypsyowl said: I was moaning about the questions asked so someone told me to go & stop complaining.........so I did... I'll be going until I'm escorted off the premises Enjoy I'll be at home thinking about your pain and eagerly awaiting your feedback Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hamakua Pueo Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 My apologies if I have missed that someone has already said this, but it seems to me that the most significant thing about the managers statement is that he is embarrassing his CEO and his Chairman. While people may praise him for being honest with the supporters, honesty is not a good policy if you are an employee, and you have information to reveal that puts the people who sign your pay slip in a bad light--unless you are looking to get fired, or looking to put pressure on them. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
davethemagicweasel Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 (edited) Forestieri sulked and refused to play for us over a contract dispute, got dropped for a couple of games and was then brought back into the team and was later rewarded with an improved contract. Yet when a youngster gets into a contract dispute he's excluded for several months. Complete double standards. Attitude seems to be that we can bully youngsters into signing. Regardless of how the problem started or whose fault it was, I wouldn't sign now if I was Hirst after being treat like this. Edited March 8, 2018 by davethemagicweasel 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 So what happens if Joao and Nuhiu are injured. We play 5-5-0 every week and get relegated? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
fife_owl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 14 minutes ago, Hamakua Pueo said: My apologies if I have missed that someone has already said this, but it seems to me that the most significant thing about the managers statement is that he is embarrassing his CEO and his Chairman. While people may praise him for being honest with the supporters, honesty is not a good policy if you are an employee, and you have information to reveal that puts the people who sign your pay slip in a bad light--unless you are looking to get fired, or looking to put pressure on them. Jos has reputation for not taking BS from the board. He walked out of his last job due to disagreements / interference?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 1 minute ago, fife_owl said: So what happens if Joao and Nuhiu are injured. We play 5-5-0 every week and get relegated? We bring in Bozzer and Lonky. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Seems a strange time to release that information the steering group meeting is going to be fun 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
prowl Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 hours ago, pazowl55 said: Got to be something to do with a appearance in the first teams means he is payed money. nothing else makes sense. not even that does, not like he is going to be on a million pound bonus with his next first team appearance probably be about 25 grand. I've not read the whole thread so maybe someone has mentioned this before.... Maybe Hirst is refusing to play for the first team unless he gets the contract he wants or at least a big bonus. I've no idea if this is true but people seem eager to blame Chansiri for the problem, all I'm saying is it could be a problem from the other side. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 What a farce. Whether George Hirst is the second coming is beside the point. Our owner is for all intents and purposes meddling in first-team affairs; preventing his head coach (who needs all the help he can get) from picking a striker who may help us get to safety. If he's willing to do that, then is it so far-fetched to think that certain first players are being prevented for contractual reasons? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 The argument over whether or not he’s worth X or Y is completely irrelevant while ever he’s not playing football. A proper chairman would’ve left the offer on the table and said “prove to me before January that you’re worth what you’re asking for, and we’ll talk again.” If he hasn’t played for the first team the argument that he isn’t worth what he wants is equally as strong as the argument that he is worth it. Absolutely shambolic handling of the situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NeonLeon Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 10 minutes ago, fife_owl said: So what happens if Joao and Nuhiu are injured. We play 5-5-0 every week and get relegated? See Millwall away... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmason69 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 Absolute rubbish. Complete lies. Hirst has already played for the first team under his current contract. Unless that contract has had a variation then he can still play. Any contract variation must be agreed by all parties covered by the original contract. That is basic law. So. Unless both the club and Hirst have agreed a variation then why is he banned If there was a variation instigated by Hirst then Wednesday did not have to agree with it and the original contract stands. And vice versa. The legal definition of a contract is that is an agreement between two or more parties.. So why has Hirst been banned. What, if any variations have been added to the existing contract Basic questions we will never get answers to. It's still my contention that Wednesday are refusing to play Hirst just to prove they are the boss. Wednesday are as bent and corrupt as they come. If the truth came out about what really goes on there they'd be thrown out of the league Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mrmason69 Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 12 minutes ago, prowl said: I've not read the whole thread so maybe someone has mentioned this before.... Maybe Hirst is refusing to play for the first team unless he gets the contract he wants or at least a big bonus. I've no idea if this is true but people seem eager to blame Chansiri for the problem, all I'm saying is it could be a problem from the other side. Hirst cannot refuse to play as that's breach of contract. It would also be career suicide at his age. However, Wednesday are perfectly within their legal rights not to play him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 4 minutes ago, Mrmason69 said: Hirst cannot refuse to play as that's breach of contract. It would also be career suicide at his age. However, Wednesday are perfectly within their legal rights not to play him But when the owner of the club orders the manager not to play him in the first team ,but he is allowed to play in the u23`s , that is when you know the whole situation within the club is wrong. The chairman/owner should keep his nose out of team selection, Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 8, 2018 Share Posted March 8, 2018 It makes you wonder why Clare is stalling over an extention to his contract. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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