BARMYARMY2010 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, @owlstalk said: Normally I'd delete this comment but I'm gonna ask you instead to refrain from personal attacks like this It adds zero to the site Quite right..................................did make me chuckle tho. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, BARMYARMY2010 said: Quite right..................................did make me chuckle tho. Personal attacks just put people off joining in and posting I don't want that Owlstalk is open to all who want to join in so long as they don't make personal attacks instead of debating the topic Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sonofbert2 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 OP is clearly not an idiot although starting a thread with a numerical value away from the main thread then getting the maths wrong puts him/her in a good position for the vacancy on the kiosk in the North Stand. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 11 minutes ago, Ash76 said: OP is an idiot And I would even quite what you are as stupid people struggle with big word Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 12 minutes ago, Animis said: Has this changed since Allen was at the club and trying to sell it? If not Wednesday have a circa 50 year reversion on the lease - i.e. 50 years left to run, which means they can not sell the leasehold to another developer unless they get an extension beyond 100 yrs from the landlord (council) It's a 1000 year lease? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Doghouse Daz Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Personal attacks just put people off joining in and posting I don't want that Owlstalk is open to all who want to join in so long as they don't make personal attacks instead of debating the topic Who had a personal attack on the size of my member the other day ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 I assume the 2017/18 position will be worse or at least the same. Therefore, we will/have presumably be forecasting a FFP breach to the authorities before the 2017/18 accounts are published no later than 1st March 2019. What will be the implication of this, and when? I'm think transfer embargo. Is there any other short term penalty? If we did nothing in the summer, and maintained and honoured the current player contracts, and being generous the revenue stays the same, it's likely we will report similar loss for 2018/19, no later than 1st March 2020. Indeed, I assume we will need to forecast these results/losses next March, which again will mean a breach on the cumulative three year assessment at £39m over three years. Unless we get promoted or cut the costs significantly in the summer of 2019, when most of the high-value contracts are up, we will presumably be caught in some form of transfer embargo over the next years - is this correct? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, room0035 said: It's a 1000 year lease? Is that a question or statement? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 5 minutes ago, sonofbert2 said: OP is clearly not an idiot although starting a thread with a numerical value away from the main thread then getting the maths wrong puts him/her in a good position for the vacancy on the kiosk in the North Stand. Really so other than match day income what's wrong it's income from source not including the chairman so HE HASN'T PUT THE MONEY IN Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 1 minute ago, Animis said: I assume the 2017/18 position will be worse or at least the same. Therefore, we will/have presumably be forecasting a FFP breach to the authorities before the 2017/18 accounts are published no later than 1st March 2019. What will be the implication of this, and when? I'm think transfer embargo. Is there any other short term penalty? If we did nothing in the summer, and maintained and honoured the current player contracts, and being generous the revenue stays the same, it's likely we will report similar loss for 2018/19, no later than 1st March 2020. Indeed, I assume we will need to forecast these results/losses next March, which again will mean a breach on the cumulative three year assessment at £39m over three years. Unless we get promoted or cut the costs significantly in the summer of 2019, when most of the high-value contracts are up, we will presumably be caught in some form of transfer embargo over the next years - is this correct? do these latest figures include Wembley? If not they certainly include last years play-offs and increased crowds due to the form of our run-in. If so then this years figures will show much lower gate incomes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 What makes the OP qualified? You know - so we can actually take him seriously? Because his figures sound like a load of bo11ocks to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 55 minutes ago, Captain Scarlett said: More to the point he is the major shareholder of the company that owns the club and the land it stands on. How much would it be worth to a supermarket Chain or housing developer to purchase the land. That is how he might recoup his investment. A frightening prospect. Jesus. The only way Mr Chansiri or his family will sell the stadium, training ground or lands for such reasons will be if/when we no longer require them as they have built something better. This type of conjecture is rife at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Animis said: I assume the 2017/18 position will be worse or at least the same. Therefore, we will/have presumably be forecasting a FFP breach to the authorities before the 2017/18 accounts are published no later than 1st March 2019. What will be the implication of this, and when? I'm think transfer embargo. Is there any other short term penalty? If we did nothing in the summer, and maintained and honoured the current player contracts, and being generous the revenue stays the same, it's likely we will report similar loss for 2018/19, no later than 1st March 2020. Indeed, I assume we will need to forecast these results/losses next March, which again will mean a breach on the cumulative three year assessment at £39m over three years. Unless we get promoted or cut the costs significantly in the summer of 2019, when most of the high-value contracts are up, we will presumably be caught in some form of transfer embargo over the next years - is this correct? We have to give this season forecast result to the fa, unless DC has found away to give a charitable donations to the club of £20m+ FFP has been smashed we will be under a transfer embargo next season. We have two choice ignore the fa and continue on am a Blackburn QPR or We sell our player assets and try and off load the over paid dross Fletcher, Abdi, Matias, Jones, etc. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, SiJ said: What makes the OP qualified? You know - so we can actually take him seriously? Because his figures sound like a load of bo11ocks to me. Really what makes you qualied? I took the figures from our published accounts so does that make them all lies as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Just now, room0035 said: Really what makes you qualied? I took the figures from our published accounts so does that make them all lies as well. No offence, but I'd rather listen to a qualified accountant than some bloke playing with his Casio. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, modboy said: do these latest figures include Wembley? If not they certainly include last years play-offs and increased crowds due to the form of our run-in. If so then this years figures will show much lower gate incomes. I assume the wembley revenue was in last year's (2015/16) accounts up to 31st May 2016. The above mentions broadcast revenue: Broadcast income was down 7%. This was partly due to Wednesday only getting as far as the playoff semi-final, compared to the previous season when they made it to Wembley, which was worth a couple of million to the club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 minutes ago, modboy said: do these latest figures include Wembley? If not they certainly include last years play-offs and increased crowds due to the form of our run-in. If so then this years figures will show much lower gate incomes. The figure are always for the previous season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted March 4, 2018 Author Share Posted March 4, 2018 3 minutes ago, SiJ said: No offence, but I'd rather listen to a qualified accountant than some bloke playing with his Casio. I am a qualified accountant and have been for 10 years 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alan48 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Thanks for the analysis - found it really helpful and easier to understand 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SiJ Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, room0035 said: I am a qualified accountant and have been for 10 years Well, there you go then. Carry on. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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