Stoop Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 It started to go wrong when DC offered CC a new contract at Wagamamas last June Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
handworth52 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Holmowl said: Huddersfield play off away. Binned an on-fire side to shoe-horn FF back in, and went ultra negative at the same time. An a4 sheet of paper aint big enough to say and list how many mistakes Carlos made , nearly every signing he made(Jan 16 onwards he was in charge of signings) playoff tactics , boring style of football , listening to his press conferences, leaving us with the unfitest squad ever , no manager has ever left our club in a worst state in 150 years of the club existence , we are having a fire sale in summer just so we can continue and pay the wages of abdi fletcher Rhodes etc who we are stuck with those 3 alone earn more than the entire Preston squad . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris_B_SWFC Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 hours ago, Owl 44 said: Forget Wembley, Carlos or player recruitment. If you could pick one defining moment this season when it all started to go wrong what would it be? Opening match? Swapping Winnall for Butterfield? Sol Bamba's equaliser for Cardiff in 95th minute? Duffy's goal for United? October international break? Other? Impossible for two reasons. 1. It didn’t happen this season. 2. We’ve made so many bad choices, and god so many awful performances. Isolated, we’d have been able to recover from them. Combined, they’ve killed us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lincs Owl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Think it all went wrong when we sacked CC. With all the injuries, he was doing well to keep us just under mid table. Since then we've been thrashed by Burton, Brum and Bris C, as well as putting in some ropey performances in other games. But carry on blaming CC. Should he really have gone after the Huddersfield home game? Sack a manager after two playoff seasons? Some fans still think we have a right to the Prem for some reason. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 6 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: Think it all went wrong when we sacked CC. With all the injuries, he was doing well to keep us just under mid table. Since then we've been thrashed by Burton, Brum and Bris C, as well as putting in some ropey performances in other games. But carry on blaming CC. Should he really have gone after the Huddersfield home game? Sack a manager after two playoff seasons? Some fans still think we have a right to the Prem for some reason. Hi Carlos Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
loonyowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 For me it was Hudds at home in play offs. We were one up, they brought on this super-fast winger late on. He was tearing us apart. I was screaming at Carlos to do something.... the inevitable happened, he created the equaliser and we know what happened next. We would have won at Wembley imo but that defeat, in the play offs for the second year running, knocked the stuffing out the whole club. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pgmetcalf Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 When Ron Atkinson left Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silkstone Owl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 For me Huddersfield performance over both legs was an indication of our fitness levels and being unable to get ourselves ‘up’ for those games. I can see why CC was still retained after that purely on position finish. What I think DC failed to see was it wasn’t necessarily representative of a ‘strong/stronger’ performance compared with the previous season. His naivety showed. After the debacle at Preston - CC should have gone - that performance left me completely dumbfounded. As if the whole squad hasn’t trained together for he whole of the summer. Rest is a complete shambles 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dutch McLovin Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Holmowl said: Whatever you think of Rhodes, we have 3 fit strikers. Is Rhodes a game changer coming off the bench? No. Is Nuhiu a good starting striker? No. Jos has to make the best of a hugely limited troup. Joao-Rhodes, with Nuhiu coming on later is the best of a bad job. Disagree Rhodes is like playing with ten men he has no affect on the game at all. I know your a fan but you must he whatever he had has now gone ? Everyone and I mean everyone wanted this to work out even those who didn’t want to sign him (like me) but he’s has chance after chance and yes we dont play his way but he simply isn’t up to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Preseason culminating in the Rangers embarrassment. Imagine letting an average team come here and play us off the park. Happy birthday everyone Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
modboy Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 54 minutes ago, pgmetcalf said: When Ron Atkinson left Both first and second time Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Manila_Owl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 When the fans turned on Carlos 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bark1062 Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Manila_Owl said: When the fans turned on Carlos Welcome back, a sure sign the weather is improving, now get some snap down you hibernation is over, I know it’s been a long one. im sure that was the catalyst to our demise ..... Edited March 4, 2018 by Bark1062 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 hours ago, Owl 44 said: Forget Wembley, Carlos or player recruitment. If you could pick one defining moment this season when it all started to go wrong what would it be? Opening match? Swapping Winnall for Butterfield? Sol Bamba's equaliser for Cardiff in 95th minute? Duffy's goal for United? October international break? Other? Forget the reasons why it went wrong - why did it go wrong?? Great question Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
hirstysboots Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 7 hours ago, Holmowl said: But we don’t yet know if Jos can fit Bannan, FF, Hooper, Lees, Westwood, Fletcher, Lee, Hutchinson into his style. We probably never will - most of those players will be gone in the summer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 8 minutes ago, Manila_Owl said: When the fans turned on Carlos Or when Carlos turned on the fans by boring us to death during games with the tactical approach. I was one that questioned his appointment but had to eat quite a lot of humble pie. I came out of the ground buzzing on several occasions. You raise the bar and are backed financially as well then you pull the rug and put it on your head instead Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest mkowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 4 minutes ago, torres said: Forget the reasons why it went wrong - why did it go wrong?? Great question My answer is below - I blame Middlesbrough. They got promoted with a style that CC then wanted to copy. Instead of thinking we are playing well how do we tweak this an entirely different game plan was adopted. It didn't suit the players ability and importantly the mentality. That was the defining moment Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundhayowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 Wembley. We were awful all last season and managed the luckiest season we have probably ever had. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Holmowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 43 minutes ago, Dutch McLovin said: Disagree Rhodes is like playing with ten men he has no affect on the game at all. I know your a fan but you must he whatever he had has now gone ? Everyone and I mean everyone wanted this to work out even those who didn’t want to sign him (like me) but he’s has chance after chance and yes we dont play his way but he simply isn’t up to it. I agree that we have not seen the old Rhodes, and it’s becoming possible we never will. But it’s wrong to say it’s like playing with ten men. Remember last season when we could only score when Jordan was on the pitch. But it the main point is we simply have no choice. We have 3 fit strikers, two of whom, Joao and Nuhiu, struggle to play lots of minutes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
roundhayowl Posted March 4, 2018 Share Posted March 4, 2018 2 minutes ago, Holmowl said: it’s wrong to say it’s like playing with ten men. From what I've seen it's 100% right. He is a zero threat and cannot actually run with any pace at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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