sherlyegg Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 50 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: He doesn't give it all the winks at camera that Carlos did, he doesn't have 'Jos has a dream' stitched into his jackets, but then again he doesn't send injured players out to play a full throttle championship game either. ....kin ...ell, when did CC do that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, sherlyegg said: ....kin ...ell, when did CC do that More than once. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Bannan, Hutch, Hooper and Lees (+Abdi) we're led to believe aren't too far away from returning. I'd expect them to make a positive difference. To be honest the cup exit will help him too. Be fairer to judge him versus Carlos when he has something approaching the players Carlos had at his disposal for a fair chunk of the season. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Xxxxxxxxcxcc Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 1 hour ago, zzmdu said: Jos wasn't brought to Hillsborough to manage a fully fit, high performing squad. That wasn't the job description because it wasn't reality. The remit for whichever manager was given the light was to manage an injury hit squad to safety. Jos need to be judged EXACTLY on how he performs NOW. It's bizarre that some don't see it. True but the thread title is comparing him specifically with Carlos. Jos hasn't had the same playing resources so far so that comparison is out of kilter. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 I know which one I'd rather have managing us... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Carlos was crap and ineffective this season. Jos is starting to head that way. We shouldn’t give up yet though, there’ll be plenty more obscure managers to go for if this doesn’t work out. 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Avon barksdale Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 Some promising performances at home , but away from home Jos is an absolute disaster, genuinely feel sorry for the fans that go. I know we’ve got injuries but the way he sets us up is a disgrace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest samowl Posted February 28, 2018 Share Posted February 28, 2018 What about the youngsters shining. Who would have never got a chance under Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 1 hour ago, samowl said: What about the youngsters shining. Who would have never got a chance under Carlos. Doesn't seem so but who knows. Maybe he woud have had no choice. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Almat Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 10 hours ago, i used to be sc_owl said: Only one of us looks stupid here. Please show me where I have judged anyone. All I have done is present facts and then ask if those facts lead to a probability of survival. You could have just shown Jos's record since he came here if you were genuinely only interested in knowing if 10 points will be enough. Adding CC's record into the post seems to suggest there was an element of comparison, implied or otherwise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
i used to be sc_owl Posted March 1, 2018 Author Share Posted March 1, 2018 7 minutes ago, Almat said: You could have just shown Jos's record since he came here if you were genuinely only interested in knowing if 10 points will be enough. Adding CC's record into the post seems to suggest there was an element of comparison, implied or otherwise. It's relevant to our points per game ratio and looking at different manager records is reasonable. For the record, despite the lower rate of points my opinion is that Jos is doing a better job than Carlos. Not to say I think he is doing a great job. Just better than the shambles under Carlos who had a better team to pick from. To be fair I should have included Bullen as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TomtheOwl95 Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Westwood, Lees, Hutchinson, Forestieri, Bannan, Van Aken, Hooper, Lee. Jos has had NONE of those players available to him since he arrived. It's crazy to write him off without allowing him to work with some of his better players. Yes he has to get results with what he has but I would argue that he has got creditable results already. I'd say 11/12 points more sees us safe and that is the aim for him. No last gasp run for the play offs, no points target. 21st or above. That's it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 Jos will go down as our greatest ever manager. Mark my words. Feel free to resurrect this thread after our Champions League victory. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
maldenowl Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 20 hours ago, SiJ said: Well, it took all of three months - but Mr Farrell has already decided that Jos isn't good enough. Think that must be a record. Bet he wants Paul Cook now after the city game Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
debram Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 20 hours ago, Mr Farrell said: As things stand they'd bore each other to death. yep like tuesday night 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr Farrell Posted March 1, 2018 Share Posted March 1, 2018 26 minutes ago, debram said: yep like tuesday night The difference is Jos has much less in terms of resources at his disposal. Still think we could have taken Swansea in both legs with a tad more ambition though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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