nevthelodgemoorowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 50 minutes ago, SiJ said: Hertha are based in a capital city and play in front of 50,000 fans on average. Sheffield Wednesday play in front of a half empty stadium with a band parping in the background. Perhaps in the 90s we could argue some sort of parity, but for the last decade plus we've been a yo-yo team between League One and the Championship. As for the media scrutiny: Perhaps - but how do you know? Someone who watches Bundesliga on a regular basis might be able to offer a comparison in terms of media coverage. At the end of the day, we are in the Championship, so the most scrutiny Jos will have to deal with (on a regular basis) is The Dom, Staton/Giddings and some bloke from the Yorkshire Post. It's not the Premier League. It's not the Premier League. No it's the Third or Fourth most popular League in the world. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DIPPS_S.W.F.C Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 If a player messes up on a goal by lack of concentration/switching off then he gets both barrels in the dressing room..Too much cotton wool wrapped up in nowadays..Thing is he's a young lad so needs praising and shown his mistakes..Well done Jos...say it as it is..UTO FTB... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
malek Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Wasn't 2'nd goal when Whelan got behind him for free header ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Weshallovercome Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 27 minutes ago, malek said: Wasn't 2'nd goal when Whelan got behind him for free header ? Yes, but I don't even blame Clare for that, he shouldn't have been the last man. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Oliver Cromwell Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He's a good prospect. Looked very good when we had the ball, wasn't half as good when Villa had it. I think Jos was spot on. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
blueowl1946 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, sweetsheri said: Don’t have a problem with it. Players are too sensitive nowadays. Hopefully he rollocked nuhui too for giving the ball away leading to villas equaliser. Fully agree with both points.No more to be said.Bye. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 I think the Clare comment is aimed at helping the lad stay grounded and also at the fans so they realise he is young, makes mistakes and will have ups and downs. As far as actually saying it, it ain’t a problem as long as he has already said it to Clare in the dressing room. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
PolarNigel Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 He'll have worked with Clare long enough now to have worked out how to treat him. Some players need an arm around them. Some players need a rocket up their arse. Some players need reminding not to get carried away. It's just nice to hear a manager talk openly about players rather than CC's "ask questions of me, not the players." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 hours ago, Hookowl said: Don't understand is this a typo ?? broken £ key Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: How come? With respect Neil, surely you would know?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 26, 2018 Author Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: With respect Neil, surely you would know?. Well with slightly LESS respect I'd not have asked if I knew Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hookowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 2 minutes ago, room0035 said: broken £ key So should read £150, get your point now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: The Hirst situation could well change again if all our strikers get 100% fit before the end of the season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minty13 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 4 hours ago, @owlstalk said: The Hirst situation could well change again if all our strikers get 100% fit before the end of the season Doesn't make a difference getting all strikers fit if we set up 5-5-0 again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 42 minutes ago, room0035 said: broken £ key Can't be that badly broken! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Olibeak Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 Jos blaming Clare for a goal should not even be an issue for debate on here. It should all have been handled in-house. End of story. Instead, he doesn't just simply make the "shock horror" statement that Clare (aged 21) still has a lot to learn (the same would also appear to apply to players a lot older than him) and leave it at that, but goes on unnecessarily, and at considerable length and in training-ground detail, about what he should have done to prevent the goal. Looking at Clare in interviews and at his general intelligent play on the pitch, he seems like a bright, grounded lad who would know full well and be angry that he'd been cleverly blindsided -- by a highly experienced player (aged 34) with 500-plus games (mostly in the Prem) and 80-plus international caps for Eire. Yes, he's undoubtedly got a lot to learn (who hasn't?), and i'm sure he'd recognise that, but he doesn't need to be given lessons in public. (We've all dropped round uns at work -- imagine what our reactions would be if the boss decided to tell the media about them!). Any sportsperson would tell you that one of the keys to high performance is confidence. This will have done nothing for Clare's confidence -- especially the gibberish bit about "sometimes when you are too positive as a player you miss how you can improve". Hope there's not a contract-related hidden agenda in Jos's extravagant public criticism -- and that it doesn't lead to us losing a promising talent. Looks to me like Jos (aged 54) also still has a lot to learn. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 1 minute ago, Olibeak said: Jos blaming Clare for a goal should not even be an issue for debate on here. It should all have been handled in-house. End of story. Instead, he doesn't just simply make the "shock horror" statement that Clare (aged 21) still has a lot to learn (the same would also appear to apply to players a lot older than him) and leave it at that, but goes on unnecessarily, and at considerable length and in training-ground detail, about what he should have done to prevent the goal. Looking at Clare in interviews and at his general intelligent play on the pitch, he seems like a bright, grounded lad who would know full well and be angry that he'd been cleverly blindsided -- by a highly experienced player (aged 34) with 500-plus games (mostly in the Prem) and 80-plus international caps for Eire. Yes, he's undoubtedly got a lot to learn (who hasn't?), and i'm sure he'd recognise that, but he doesn't need to be given lessons in public. (We've all dropped round uns at work -- imagine what our reactions would be if the boss decided to tell the media about them!). Any sportsperson would tell you that one of the keys to high performance is confidence. This will have done nothing for Clare's confidence -- especially the gibberish bit about "sometimes when you are too positive as a player you miss how you can improve". Hope there's not a contract-related hidden agenda in Jos's extravagant public criticism -- and that it doesn't lead to us losing a promising talent. Looks to me like Jos (aged 54) also still has a lot to learn. Can you imagine if he was talking about all the goals Loovens and Hunt have cost us this season, it would have to have a press conference each week just to cover their wee wee tail ups. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lord Snooty Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 "sometimes when you are too positive as a player you miss how you can improve" I think he's got the wrong word in translation. I don't think he means positive. I think he means something else. Can't think of it at the moment. It'll come to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 5 hours ago, torryowl said: I don't think he should have said that ..... Keeps him grounded Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted February 26, 2018 Share Posted February 26, 2018 13 minutes ago, Lord Snooty said: "sometimes when you are too positive as a player you miss how you can improve" I think he's got the wrong word in translation. I don't think he means positive. I think he means something else. Can't think of it at the moment. It'll come to me. I think he means Clare is very confident character which no doubt helped him perform when put in the first team . I have been amazed how he has not been overawed at all. But equally this confidence might mean he doesn’t see things he has to improve. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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