dorian gray Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 11/02/2018 at 12:19, prowl said: I've got a Merc C220 Estate that does Brighton and back on 6.5 gallons. Obviously not if the M25 is blocked as it usually is but on a clear run. About £37 can i borrow it next time i go to brighton? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anus Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 We are a payg ticket family this year, we have 3 kid's from 9 up to 19. Me and the other half work irregular shifts over weekends, and with the family stuff we can't guarantee how often we will get. We had season tickets for all up to 3 year's ago, but changes of jobs meant the 2 year's before this we just bought membership. Last year things were extra hectic, so even the cost of the membership didn't really feel like it payed for itself. Also with the eldest kids getting more independent, it can be anywhere between 1 and the 3 of them that we bring. This year we have managed about half of the home games and I haven't really worried about paying the into the early £30's, as regardless of the match we enjoy the day (the ups and the downs!) and WAWAW. But we have decided to pass on the Villa match as we would have been taking a full house, so the best part of £150 in tickets, add in booking fee and we usually go North stand. First time we have ever dipped out on price, and in reality it's only £6 per head more for the 2 adults and 2 concessions. So only £18 more than it would be for Derby tomorrow, to which 3 of us are going. But adding in food, some booze etc etc it just feels to much. We could cheapen it up by ditching the expenses outside of the match, but this is part of the day to us, and I don't want to. I'm happy to bring us all to Swansea on Saturday, when we could watch it for free, but does my Villa refusal put me in the fair weather fan club? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 minutes ago, Theboatman72 said: We are a payg ticket family this year, we have 3 kid's from 9 up to 19. Me and the other half work irregular shifts over weekends, and with the family stuff we can't guarantee how often we will get. We had season tickets for all up to 3 year's ago, but changes of jobs meant the 2 year's before this we just bought membership. Last year things were extra hectic, so even the cost of the membership didn't really feel like it payed for itself. Also with the eldest kids getting more independent, it can be anywhere between 1 and the 3 of them that we bring. This year we have managed about half of the home games and I haven't really worried about paying the into the early £30's, as regardless of the match we enjoy the day (the ups and the downs!) and WAWAW. But we have decided to pass on the Villa match as we would have been taking a full house, so the best part of £150 in tickets, add in booking fee and we usually go North stand. First time we have ever dipped out on price, and in reality it's only £6 per head more for the 2 adults and 2 concessions. So only £18 more than it would be for Derby tomorrow, to which 3 of us are going. But adding in food, some booze etc etc it just feels to much. We could cheapen it up by ditching the expenses outside of the match, but this is part of the day to us, and I don't want to. I'm happy to bring us all to Swansea on Saturday, when we could watch it for free, but does my Villa refusal put me in the fair weather fan club? i'd have you down as an ardent fan, however... some will be heating the 'blinding' iron as i post, BEWARE OF THE TRUE FAN. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
asteener1867 Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 9 minutes ago, Theboatman72 said: We are a payg ticket family this year, we have 3 kid's from 9 up to 19. Me and the other half work irregular shifts over weekends, and with the family stuff we can't guarantee how often we will get. We had season tickets for all up to 3 year's ago, but changes of jobs meant the 2 year's before this we just bought membership. Last year things were extra hectic, so even the cost of the membership didn't really feel like it payed for itself. Also with the eldest kids getting more independent, it can be anywhere between 1 and the 3 of them that we bring. This year we have managed about half of the home games and I haven't really worried about paying the into the early £30's, as regardless of the match we enjoy the day (the ups and the downs!) and WAWAW. But we have decided to pass on the Villa match as we would have been taking a full house, so the best part of £150 in tickets, add in booking fee and we usually go North stand. First time we have ever dipped out on price, and in reality it's only £6 per head more for the 2 adults and 2 concessions. So only £18 more than it would be for Derby tomorrow, to which 3 of us are going. But adding in food, some booze etc etc it just feels to much. We could cheapen it up by ditching the expenses outside of the match, but this is part of the day to us, and I don't want to. I'm happy to bring us all to Swansea on Saturday, when we could watch it for free, but does my Villa refusal put me in the fair weather fan club? The mark of a fan is tipping up when you can mate, and when you can afford it....The pricing in the POTG is ludicrous, but some will still hit you over the head with the "Trufan" stick.... The club will preach loyalty and patience every f.ookin' year as things go t *ts..and some fans will preach the "I'm going out of sheer loyalty ..I don't really want to"....fookwhittery" I go cos I enjoy the sheer bloody dogs breakfast...When I stop enjoying...I'll stop goin'...no apologies no excuses...When I'm priced out...I'll do what you are doing. Its harder at the minute cos you can't see where the points are gonna come from....and to be fair, the POTG prices they charge....with half the f.ookin' first team missing, is daft. but, they rely on us being daft...and we are f.ookin' daft...Wednesday fans always have been.... You have obviously put the time in...don't f.ookin' apologise for stuff you have no control over, and never look at yourself as a "fair weather fan"... There are Owls fans who won't be happy until they are the only f.ooker in the ground shoutin' "Look at me!!!" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anus Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 I can apologies for making 4x6=18 though!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 On 11/02/2018 at 03:41, james o connor said: The fact the club dares ask 39 quid for this tripe. They should be paying us I’d charge £50 to get my own back Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, Theboatman72 said: We are a payg ticket family this year, we have 3 kid's from 9 up to 19. Me and the other half work irregular shifts over weekends, and with the family stuff we can't guarantee how often we will get. We had season tickets for all up to 3 year's ago, but changes of jobs meant the 2 year's before this we just bought membership. Last year things were extra hectic, so even the cost of the membership didn't really feel like it payed for itself. Also with the eldest kids getting more independent, it can be anywhere between 1 and the 3 of them that we bring. This year we have managed about half of the home games and I haven't really worried about paying the into the early £30's, as regardless of the match we enjoy the day (the ups and the downs!) and WAWAW. But we have decided to pass on the Villa match as we would have been taking a full house, so the best part of £150 in tickets, add in booking fee and we usually go North stand. First time we have ever dipped out on price, and in reality it's only £6 per head more for the 2 adults and 2 concessions. So only £18 more than it would be for Derby tomorrow, to which 3 of us are going. But adding in food, some booze etc etc it just feels to much. We could cheapen it up by ditching the expenses outside of the match, but this is part of the day to us, and I don't want to. I'm happy to bring us all to Swansea on Saturday, when we could watch it for free, but does my Villa refusal put me in the fair weather fan club? I’d be interested to hear your overall outlay on tickets at the end of the season and then compare it to what season tickets at the early bird stage would have cost you Pay on the day prices are just plain bonkers, the early bird prices while not cheap do work out a lot better value if you manage to get to 3 quarters of the matches or so Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 1 hour ago, dnhc said: i'd have you down as an ardent fan, however... some will be heating the 'blinding' iron as i post, BEWARE OF THE TRUE FAN. This 'truefan' thing is really getting tiresome. Are some people only happy when they belong to one specific group. We had f****n 'Clappers' & 'Bedwetters' and now it's 'POTG' ers & bloody 'truefans'. Is it a South Yorkshire thing that people are only happy when there is a bit of conflict or a protest to cling onto especially if it involves anything to do with cost & affordability with 'social justice' arguments thrown into the fray for good measure. Its almost been completely turned on its head now, with people who are able & willing (stress the able), to commit to a season ticket are now vilified as some sort of smug, self satisfied elite, when in reality they may have to work their boll**ks off and prioritise their outgoings for the privilege of getting said season ticket. This debate has dragged on for ever & no doubt will continue to do so, but the old argument of 'How cheap is cheap enough' is subjective in both affordability terms and commercial & marketing viability terms. It may be a socially unacceptable fact, but if the financial incentive to commit to a season ticket is taken away & the gap between POTG tickets & season tickets becomes negligible, season ticket sales will fall, people will pick & choose and rather than crowds rising, the opposite will eventually happen. There is no one answer that ticks all the boxes, every 'action' has a 'reaction' and the balance between how you 'pay' and how 'often you go', will always be a contentious issue. Dividing into two groups with the associated name calling and 'moral grandstanding' achieves nothing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 2 hours ago, theowlsman said: I’d charge £50 to get my own back Shrewd business brain ..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anus Posted February 12, 2018 Share Posted February 12, 2018 (edited) 4 hours ago, torres said: I’d be interested to hear your overall outlay on tickets at the end of the season and then compare it to what season tickets at the early bird stage would have cost you In fairness this season is the only proper contrast, and that's slightly skewed by the kids ageing so the decisions we made a couple of years ago are probably not what we would pick next season. For the last two seasons we have been hit by the older ranks of both sides of the family being blighted by I'll health, although by this was resolved just before this season kicked off.... This season we have done 8 out of the 15(?) home matches by Derby on Tues, and there have usually been 4 of us there so a combo of either 2 adults, or 2 concessions and always an under 11. So call an adult an approx average £30/ concession £20 and under 11 a tenner. So £80-90 a visit, so say 8x85 is £680ish so far, another 4 out of those left hopefully, so another £340, so overall just over a grand. I'm missing off the fa cups and the odd away match etc, so there are more concessions there. In value terms nowt beats a season ticket, but for us we are doing less matches so the sundry costs like food, booze and travel are also less. So I think our situation isn't what it would be for others. Next year our eldest kid knows she'll be funding her own tickets/ season ticket as she works full time, as we don't charge her board. So we may well go back to 4 season ticket's as we have enough family and friends to fill the seat's and the eldest might fund one!! Edited February 12, 2018 by Theboatman72 poo spelling Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 21 hours ago, bigthinrob said: This 'truefan' thing is really getting tiresome. Are some people only happy when they belong to one specific group. We had f****n 'Clappers' & 'Bedwetters' and now it's 'POTG' ers & bloody 'truefans'. Is it a South Yorkshire thing that people are only happy when there is a bit of conflict or a protest to cling onto especially if it involves anything to do with cost & affordability with 'social justice' arguments thrown into the fray for good measure. Its almost been completely turned on its head now, with people who are able & willing (stress the able), to commit to a season ticket are now vilified as some sort of smug, self satisfied elite, when in reality they may have to work their boll**ks off and prioritise their outgoings for the privilege of getting said season ticket. This debate has dragged on for ever & no doubt will continue to do so, but the old argument of 'How cheap is cheap enough' is subjective in both affordability terms and commercial & marketing viability terms. It may be a socially unacceptable fact, but if the financial incentive to commit to a season ticket is taken away & the gap between POTG tickets & season tickets becomes negligible, season ticket sales will fall, people will pick & choose and rather than crowds rising, the opposite will eventually happen. There is no one answer that ticks all the boxes, every 'action' has a 'reaction' and the balance between how you 'pay' and how 'often you go', will always be a contentious issue. Dividing into two groups with the associated name calling and 'moral grandstanding' achieves nothing. i think you're taking this far too serious, not everything in life is black and white. that said i for one have seen an element of superiority from time to time in postings on here, that were labelled 'true fan' for the reason of highlighting the perceived position of the poster at that time. i believe posters are not knocking season ticket holders, they are having a chip at those who appear (self) raised above martyrdom. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 7 minutes ago, dnhc said: i think you're taking this far too serious, not everything in life is black and white. that said i for one have seen an element of superiority from time to time in postings on here, that were labelled 'true fan' for the reason of highlighting the perceived position of the poster at that time. i believe posters are not knocking season ticket holders, they are having a chip at those who appear (self) raised above martyrdom. 100% End of the day we're all Wednesday fans Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 34 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: 100% End of the day we're all Wednesday fans you'll always find someone to disagree with you when speaking, or posting over passionate affairs. i dropped upon a ding' at work last night who flew into 'YOUR LOT WERE F*****' LUCKY AT THE W/E', to which i replied 'yes, we were lucky not to have more that 14 out injured, and we were lucky to be playing your lot'. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 51 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: 100% End of the day we're all Wednesday fans Isn’t that exactly what I was saying?? I was quite clearly (or maybe not clear enough) arguing against the various cliques that people seem to want to pigeon hole people into. Think my last paragraph makes that abundantly clear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Just now, bigthinrob said: Isn’t that exactly what I was saying?? I was quite clearly (or maybe not clear enough) arguing against the various cliques that people seem to want to pigeon hole people into. Think my last paragraph makes that abundantly clear. Yeah I was agreeing with you Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 1 hour ago, dnhc said: i think you're taking this far too serious, not everything in life is black and white. that said i for one have seen an element of superiority from time to time in postings on here, that were labelled 'true fan' for the reason of highlighting the perceived position of the poster at that time. i believe posters are not knocking season ticket holders, they are having a chip at those who appear (self) raised above martyrdom. Bill Shankly maybe wouldn’t agree with you about taking it too seriously. ”People say football is not life or death, it’s much more serious than that”. Ps have quoted that from memory so probably not word for word. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 Money generated from POTG tonight won't even cover Almen Abdi's wage for an hours work in Megastore. Fact Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigthinrob Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 4 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Yeah I was agreeing with you I’ll let you off then. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 13, 2018 Share Posted February 13, 2018 10 minutes ago, bigthinrob said: Think my last paragraph makes that abundantly clear. Ps I loved this sentence and signoff I could just feel the power of the dark side coming from your inner anger Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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