Pale Rider 1,717 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, jfr142 said: Starting to look like Carlos was not our problem right? Spade a spade time. Chansiri out for me. Millions won't cut it these days. Billions required. And he ain't got them. Do you need film plots explaining to you as well. 2 Link to post Share on other sites
Plonk 7,184 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Read up on carol and mourinhos approach to the game, periodisation it's called. You could have predicted what would happen in year three. Sadly I didn't read up until too late. Or I would have known. Link to post Share on other sites
Lincs Owl 2,636 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 58 minutes ago, Belfast Owl 2 said: Bristol City where a typically slow start showed we did not have fitness to compete for 90 minutes. Same as Forest If you believe we had sufficient fitness under Carlos then fine. He wasn’t the whole problem but was certainly a part of it If we were unfit we would fade in the last half hour. We rarely did. We usually started slowly. Not a sign of being unfit in my opinion. Carlos has managed much bigger clubs than us, so I'm sure he knows all about fitness coaches. Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist_Owl 2,712 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Amazing that the mentalists here need this explained, but CC is succeeding at taking off the defensive rigidity enforced by the previous regime and letting them run riot. Great short term bounce based on very little foundation. It happened here. We also saw it's absolutely unsustainable as he has no clue as to implement any real tactical identity - he's yet to do so in his managerial career. Link to post Share on other sites
Socialist_Owl 2,712 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, Lincs Owl said: If we were unfit we would fade in the last half hour. We rarely did. We usually started slowly. Not a sign of being unfit in my opinion. Carlos has managed much bigger clubs than us, so I'm sure he knows all about fitness coaches. Was never around long enough at these "big clubs". Link to post Share on other sites
jfr142 150 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, JC_owl66 said: Wake up mate - if Newcastle can’t find a buyer , whose going to come in for us ? How long did we have to wait before chansiri came in? personally the premier league is overrated - I would be happy being a top half championship club, with a chance of promotion Carlos acquisition of players who never contributed is one of main factors that we are where we are How many teams can cope with amount of players unavailable we have currently and still compete ! We have to be content for a rough end to the season question we should be asking is exact extent of injury of all the players and when they are expected back.. that’s reasonable all seems obvious to me, either i'm a genius or stupid, time will tell Link to post Share on other sites
jfr142 150 Posted February 10, 2018 Author Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Pale Rider said: Do you need film plots explaining to you as well. ey? 1 Link to post Share on other sites
AwokenGiant 2,175 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Hookowl said: Think Carlos is on honeymoon at Swansea the same as he was 1st season here. Yeah, like Clement et al before him! Link to post Share on other sites
RUMBELOWS91 10,686 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, RocketOwl said: So why is everyone not injured if it's his training regime? Reach hasn't been injured or Wallace etc What a daft post. Link to post Share on other sites
gurujuan 13,108 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: Yeah, like Clement et al before him! but unlike poor old Jos here Link to post Share on other sites
bowl 58 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, jfr142 said: Starting to look like Carlos was not our problem right? Spade a spade time. Chansiri out for me. Millions won't cut it these days. Billions required. And he ain't got them. Wilder's not doing too badly without billions. Link to post Share on other sites
JC_owl66 189 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 59 minutes ago, jfr142 said: all seems obvious to me, either i'm a genius or stupid, time will tell I would be careful setting the bar so wide from genius to stupid Way too many people looking for easy options that don’t exist, wake up - there are no magic billionaires waiting to parachute into Sheffield to take us to the promised land. i honestly think we will do a Cardiff - struggle this year and grind to the top next year Link to post Share on other sites
AwokenGiant 2,175 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 49 minutes ago, gurujuan said: but unlike poor old Jos here I have empathy for him, but if CC was getting the results he has (under same conditions) there would be little to no patience. He’s gone to Swansea and turned a team of players who couldn’t buy a goal or a win into a top half Prem team (form wise). However, some on here will still put that down to a ‘honeymoon’ period or a ‘1st season influence’ that is a pattern for CC as a coach. More fool the ‘Carlos Out’ brigade! Edited February 10, 2018 by AwokenGiant Link to post Share on other sites
Theboylangers 2,008 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I think that Carlos knew the poo was going to hit the fan in terms of no money to buy players in the January window and thought balls to this, I'm onto a loser here and bailed to Swansea. Link to post Share on other sites
Hawkowl 1,726 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 5 hours ago, RocketOwl said: So why is everyone not injured if it's his training regime? Reach hasn't been injured or Wallace etc That's a daft statement even for you. FFS. Link to post Share on other sites
gurujuan 13,108 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 I don’t know, I still feel that Carlos would have had more chance of getting the results to see us safe He proved last season, following poor form, that he could produce a string of wins that carried us through to the play offs Would this have been his last season, maybe, but January was the wrong time to appoint a coach like Jos In the summer, yes I think it would have been an interesting appointment I didn’t want Carlos sacked, and any mutual parting would have been better agreed in the summer Link to post Share on other sites
oldishowl 5,191 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 It is pretty obvious that Carlos and his Doyen mates disappeared over the horizon as quick as they could once the money ran out and any chance of picking up a lucrative bonus for getting us promoted disappeared because of the injuries. That bonus will have now have been replaced by one to keep Swansea up. As soon as they deemed they had more chance of getting the bonus and the kudos at Swansea, off they went. Link to post Share on other sites
Dylan93 315 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 Um, who brought in crap players? Why spend 8 million on a striker where he doesn’t suit your style of football so you place him on bench? Link to post Share on other sites
gurujuan 13,108 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 minutes ago, oldishowl said: It is pretty obvious that Carlos and his Doyen mates disappeared over the horizon as quick as they could once the money ran out and any chance of picking up a lucrative bonus for getting us promoted disappeared because of the injuries. That bonus will have now have been replaced by one to keep Swansea up. As soon as they deemed they had more chance of getting the bonus and the kudos at Swansea, off they went. Well if that was the case, we could have just refused Swansea permission to talk to him Don’t buy any of it, we acted hastily and we may just pay the ultimate price Link to post Share on other sites
DJMortimer 13,475 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 6 hours ago, jfr142 said: Spade a spade time. Chansiri out for me. Do you think this is the X Factor or something? Link to post Share on other sites
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