AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 It was the chairman who tried to keep hold of the original Carvalhal, unfortunately it was the 'Carlos Out!' crowd who got their way! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 hours ago, Kagoshimaowl said: A bit harsh from the OP but the side Jos has picked today is awful. Well he hasn't got a lot to pick from has he. Who would you have played in defence to day considering the players he had?. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 15 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: It was the chairman who tried to keep hold of the original Carvalhal, unfortunately it was the 'Carlos Out!' crowd who got their way! 'Carlos' did that all by himself. Not getting the players fit through a proper pre-season. Allowing Discipline to fail. No motivation of players. Refusing to change his style/formation Not signing players with any pace Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 8 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: 'Carlos' did that all by himself. Not getting the players fit through a proper pre-season. Allowing Discipline to fail. No motivation of players. Refusing to change his style/formation Not signing players with any pace No he didn't - he lost a section of the fans! Luhukay has reportedly got them fitter, yet we still not winning games! In addition, nobody complained about fitness in the previous seasons (I assume the pre-season training methods were similar) What evidence have we got of this? Again, what evidence? He was, like Luhukay, struggling with a depleted squad. I think he addressed this, with regards to the fact that he would have signed a forward player with pace had he known FF was out long term. Edited February 10, 2018 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
adelphi1867 Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 minute ago, AwokenGiant said: No he didn't - he lost a section of the fans! Luhukay has reportedly got them fitter, yet we still not winning games! In addition, nobody complained about fitness in the previous seasons (I assume the pre-season training methods were similar) What evidence have we got of this? Again, what evidence? He was, like Luhukay, struggling with a depleted squad. I think he addressed this, with regards to the fact that he would have signed a forward player with pace had he known FF was out long term. I did, he took over a fit squad of players in 2015, and each season the fitness levels went down. Don't for get .'Carlos' stated that these very same players were tired after just 3 games this season, that tells me that there is evidence of lack of fitness. He had 5 transfer windows to address the lack of pace in the squad, lack of power in midfield too. He chose not to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
billyblack Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 2 minutes ago, AwokenGiant said: No he didn't - he lost a section of the fans! Luhukay has reportedly got them fitter, yet we still not winning games! In addition, nobody complained about fitness in the previous seasons (I assume the pre-season training methods were similar) What evidence have we got of this? Again, what evidence? He was, like Luhukay, struggling with a depleted squad. I think he addressed this, with regards to the fact that he would have signed a forward player with pace had he known FF was out long term. Got them fitter?! Yes he has the ones who arent crocked. He aint Dougie Howser. Really dont know what you expect with the players he has. Im going to wait until we are 3 months into the new season before leaping to conclusions. He will have had a proper transfer window, a close season to train properly and some players back fit then. Until then, as long as we dont get relegated im not too fussed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) 1 minute ago, billyblack said: Got them fitter?! Yes he has the ones who arent crocked. He aint Dougie Howser. Really dont know what you expect with the players he has. Im going to wait until we are 3 months into the new season before leaping to conclusions. He will have had a proper transfer window, a close season to train properly and some players back fit then. Until then, as long as we dont get relegated im not too fussed. Not having a go at Luhukay, I sympathise with his situation (as I did with CC before he left). Edited February 10, 2018 by AwokenGiant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
AwokenGiant Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 4 minutes ago, adelphi1867 said: I did, he took over a fit squad of players in 2015, and each season the fitness levels went down. Don't for get .'Carlos' stated that these very same players were tired after just 3 games this season, that tells me that there is evidence of lack of fitness. He had 5 transfer windows to address the lack of pace in the squad, lack of power in midfield too. He chose not to. But we made the play offs two seasons on the bounce - that would be more of a benchmark for me, than fitness. This season was a 'ship wreck' in terms of injuries, so I feel patience with CC would have been justified (as is being given to Luhukay). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: Give Jos a chance ,When Carlos came in he did not have this injury problem ,Also plenty of money for recruitment ,Give Jos time. Team was too negative today against a poor barnsley side! We could have played four at the back, or reach at wing back and boyd on the left. Rhodes on the bench, team selection was poor today and this manager is yet to win me over Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S1Owl Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 (edited) Right manager maybe when a fit squad, I just hope he's right manager in our situation. Edited February 10, 2018 by S1Owl Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sage owl Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 3 hours ago, @owlstalk said: In two minds whether to just delete this thread Even plant pots deserve a voice Neil. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
slinger208b Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 What happened to marks 2-10?.. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BIG D Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 How thick do you have to be to look at the players available and then start a thread like this? Oh and we got a result! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jeffjohnsonmyhero Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 39 minutes ago, chizumgeorge said: Team was too negative today against a poor barnsley side! We could have played four at the back, or reach at wing back and boyd on the left. Rhodes on the bench, team selection was poor today and this manager is yet to win me over Lets get to the end of the season ,Must admit I thought some on bench would have started . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
chizumgeorge Posted February 10, 2018 Share Posted February 10, 2018 1 hour ago, Jeffjohnsonmyhero said: Lets get to the end of the season ,Must admit I thought some on bench would have started . In 14 or 15 games time we will be down playing players and formations like today! Not good enough Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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