Hookowl Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 26 minutes ago, JAYFC1991 said: So much hatred towards Carlos, yet I have none I don't hate him at all. I do think his tactics initially helped us massively in the first season he was here. Then lack of alternative team tactics and alleged failures in training and promoting fitness levels ruined our team. It was definitely time for him to go. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougoumont Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: No need to get all angrymad I meant the injury list OK, the injury list...what's that to do with CC other than the fact that it robbed him of several key players and is a major factor of our plunge down the table this season. It"s also the main reason that JL will probably struggle for good results the remainder of this season. If you wan't to criticise CC then blame him for that abysmal opening game of the season against Preston when it was obvious to a blind man that they were unfit, unprepared and unmotivated. But players have to take a huge portion of blame for that and for the other season changing performance against the pigs. How f***king bad was their collective attitude for that one? He came here and did his best...ultimately his best wasn't good enough, but he is a decent man and does not deserve to be villified by some of the morons on here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hougoumont said: OK, the injury list...what's that to do with CC other than the fact that it robbed him of several key players Firstly - let's drop the name calling and getting personal (morons? really? come on... let's have a mature debate and not a schoolyard one) Secondly - re: injuries - I'm taking it you've not read the bits coming out of the first team players themselves recently about what training was like under Carlos? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 “I wasn’t sacked, I talked with the Chairman because we had problems” So "mutual consent". Wasn't that what was reported at the time? So what's new here? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OxonOwl Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 The press seem to write about him having been sacked now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 9 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Firstly - let's drop the name calling and getting personal (morons? really? come on... let's have a mature debate and not a schoolyard one) Secondly - re: injuries - I'm taking it you've not read the bits coming out of the first team players themselves recently about what training was like under Carlos? I saw something from Boyd. Personally think different players and Coaches etc will all have their own views on how training should go. I also remember Bullen stating, quite passionately, that the stuff about fitness being an issue was "a load of cràp". We've got a few injury prone players on the books, some of them been here and regularly injured for years. Now on top of that we've got 4 or 5 that are not classed as injury prone. I think, when you are carrying players that you know are gonna miss big parts of the Season, most Seasons, you're always at risk that a few more injuries on top will lead to this situation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hougoumont Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 22 minutes ago, @owlstalk said: Firstly - let's drop the name calling and getting personal (morons? really? come on... let's have a mature debate and not a schoolyard one) Secondly - re: injuries - I'm taking it you've not read the bits coming out of the first team players themselves recently about what training was like under Carlos? No I've not...where are these "bits" published or have they been broadcast? Surely you're not going to tell me that FF, Lees, Hooper, Hutchinson and the rest have been injured as a direct result of his training methods? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 7, 2018 Author Share Posted February 7, 2018 4 minutes ago, Hougoumont said: No I've not...where are these "bits" published or have they been broadcast? Surely you're not going to tell me that FF, Lees, Hooper, Hutchinson and the rest have been injured as a direct result of his training methods? If you've not seen it I can highly recommend reading up on it Recent player interviews (Reach was one of them) discussing what training was like under Carlos and how it's changed for the better under Jos etc They've been in the local press, on the radio in interviews, and even on the official website I think It was posted on here a few times each time too Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceInBlunderland Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 1 hour ago, ramone said: What do you expect him to say... 'Never in a million did i see myself managing Cardiff, how did I end up here!?!' Alexis Sanchez said it was his boyhood dream to play for Udinese, Barca, Arsenal and now Man Utd... They're all at it. Well aware he's not the only one who's full of it, and that he has the right to say what he chooses, just like I have the right to call bull when I smell it. 'I've always wanted to manage in the Prem, and I'm looking forward to my time with Swansea' would've been a lot more credible imo. Now I can't shake the image of a young Carlos being asked 'Nou Camp?Bernabeu? Old Trafford?' and him responding 'nah f.uck it, take me to the Liberty.' Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Spookone Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, adelphi1867 said: And who he has been linked with in the recent past. He must think we are a reight set of muppets. Most of us are 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 minutes ago, Spookone said: Most of us are I am Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Simaniac Owl Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, Lord Snooty said: But just what we're those problems? Scattergun transfer policy which mean we never signed a striker capable of doing 100m in less than two minutes? FFP? Or pesky fans questioning why they were paying top dollar for second division football with the attacking intent of a 1960s Italian Catenaccio? Referees? The whole of the squad being cripples? Doyen Not enough shirts to go around What problems Damn it! What problems! A receding hairline. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
toppOwl Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, GMOwl72 said: He's gone. Leave him be. Let's look forward. We have much more things that should concern us at the minute. Win or lose on the 17th Feb we won't even remember in 6 months time. We will if its 1-8 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
the mighty wednesday Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 3 hours ago, gurujuan said: Starting to wish he was, if Saturday was anything to go by Saturday was a freak. Two goals gifted, a man wrongly sent off, a goal in added time. 3-0 down at half time. Won the second half in spite of it. Nothing to do with who was manager. If the same thing happens against Barnsley then I will admit that we may have a real problem. At the moment we have injury problems and a lack of confidence which if not corrected may lead to a real relegation scrap but we have seen signs that Jos had them much more organised in the previous games. They were shell-shocked after the first goal went in never mind Wildsmith's mistake for the second and the ridiculous sending off. Very few teams can retain composure after that and some expect our injury ravaged team to bounce back and win 4-3. Until Saturday at least I will put Birmingham down to freak occurrences. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
owlsdreamer Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 Don't care what the remaining happy CC clappers on here think. IMO he is a snidey two faced two hat. Not sure we will because the team he has inherited is still fit for now, but I really hope we smash em. UTO Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 14 minutes ago, the mighty wednesday said: Until Saturday at least I will put Birmingham down to freak occurrences. Yep - simply a weird break in a series of convincing victories. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 54 minutes ago, MaliceInBlunderland said: Well aware he's not the only one who's full of it, and that he has the right to say what he chooses, just like I have the right to call bull when I smell it. 'I've always wanted to manage in the Prem, and I'm looking forward to my time with Swansea' would've been a lot more credible imo. Now I can't shake the image of a young Carlos being asked 'Nou Camp?Bernabeu? Old Trafford?' and him responding 'nah f.uck it, take me to the Liberty.' Or Vetch Field even. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
tarn owl Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 I sincerely hope he doesn't get any boos or abuse. It would look very petty and disrespectful, I wanted him to go after Norwich but it doesn't mean we need to be disrespectful on his return. Just a mild round of applause from people who want to in the Lower south stand is all that is needed. Then everyone watch the game and move on, then i hope we never have to have Carlos back until we have all moved on a bit more. If he left to go to Swansea, so what?? most wanted him to go anyway, if he engineered the way out to get a move then who does that bother or hurt when we didn't want him anyway. My main concern will be watching Wednesday hopefully make a Quarter final in the FA Cup for the first time in ages, Come on Wednesday. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dick_Turpin Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 2 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: I hate owlstalk you can never get a straight answer about Doyen Did OT burgle your house and sh.it on your kids or summat? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MaliceInBlunderland Posted February 7, 2018 Share Posted February 7, 2018 19 minutes ago, rickygoo said: Or Vetch Field even. Fair cop guv. Realised this was more probable than possible whilst posting, but tbh, I just couldn't be bothered to look it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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