Miffed Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 16 hours ago, thewookieisdown said: I'm in favour. There's always more people willing to criticise from the sidelines than actually do anything. This is where many people are wrong. There are many fans up towards the back of the Kop who are prepared to sing all game yet many times when they get a song going they are drowned out by an out of time drum or an out of key trumpet, or by the band playing a completely different song. It still happens, like at the Cardiff game where people around me were singing yet two minutes later they had a look of bemusement and frustration on their faces from being drowned out. I promise, it happens at least once every game and if you listen out Im sure it will happen today. Many people have either moved to other areas of the stadium or just given up trying because of the band. Its a real shame that there is no in-between option, for just a drum for example, so for that reason I voted no Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest timrud Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 The problem is that the band actually cause the bad atmosphere, because people rely on them. So we need to remove them for a decent period of time before assessing Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 2 hours ago, Brommers said: I think this is what annoys people more. The fact they prostitute themselves around for England and rhinos rather than their playing at Hillsborough. I'm a bit ambivalent towards them but do agree without them it could be morgue like on a lot of occasions. Maybe the club could suggest a trial period without them to see what happens. Did it under Allen. The atmosphere was just starting to return when LS did the dodgy vote and back they came. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, Miffed said: This is where many people are wrong. There are many fans up towards the back of the Kop who are prepared to sing all game yet many times when they get a song going they are drowned out by an out of time drum or an out of key trumpet, or by the band playing a completely different song. It still happens, like at the Cardiff game where people around me were singing yet two minutes later they had a look of bemusement and frustration on their faces from being drowned out. I promise, it happens at least once every game and if you listen out Im sure it will happen today. Many people have either moved to other areas of the stadium or just given up trying because of the band. Its a real shame that there is no in-between option, for just a drum for example, so for that reason I voted no All true. We'll never just get a drum mate because that wouldn't involve Hemmingham. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vernster Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) Apart from the big games , and when we are winning there is no atmosphere the majority of the time . In the majority of games it’s only the band that stop Hillsborough been as quiet as a library . for thar reason , it’s a big keep from me, and that’s how I voted . Edited February 3, 2018 by Vernster 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted February 3, 2018 Author Share Posted February 3, 2018 3 minutes ago, Vernster said: Apart from the big games , and when we are winning there is no atmosphere the majority of the time . In the majority of games it’s only the band that stop Hillsborough been as quiet as a library . for thar reason , it’s a big keep from me, and that’s how I voted . Some might suggest that's the same as saying we shouldn't have a black balloon protest and get rid of Dave Allen as chairman because no other person would want to come in and take over the club Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl Be Back Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Get rid of them. I actually think they stop the usual way songs and chants happen at football matches, stopping a lot of the spontaneity. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Miffed Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Players come out of tunnel - play song X Drum out of time during Hi Ho Silver Lining (even though theres no need to drum at all) Game kicks off - Play song Y Wednesday get a corner - Play song Z Wednesday score - play Aida (even though the fans sometimes want to sing the goalscorers name) Wednesday fans sing - Drown them out Opposition keeper taking a goal kick - Attempt to put them off with the drum (even though this hasnt worked once in 20 years) Its all very scripted and robotic Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
optimisticowl Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 How about Tango taking bugle lessons? 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
heppers Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 For a lot of fans they have known nothing else. I think the band should be asked to play every other home game until the end of season and then the club should do a survey. That way people can compare and decide. Personally I think it has become a bit dull. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 20 hours ago, Maxine said: Boo that's that loon Nicola Sturgeons "Yes"... boo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wednesday Fan Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 I can’t really say I notice them anymore. But soon as they go the silence will be deafening!!! Up the Owls!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Thought today summed them up. Joined in songs already started, only to ruin them. Play at obvious times, when the fans would sing anyway. But what I thought was poor, when Wildsmith made his error, that was a perfect time to sing his name/England's number 1. Give the lad a lift, he was stood there with his head down. Sadly there was nothing. Admittedly, nothing from any of the crowd, but the band's one job is to create a positive atmosphere. They're absolutely pointless. Get foookin rid. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 until the players start giving the fans to sing about, the band are the only noise coming out of the stands at the minute. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lawrie Madden Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 (edited) 19 hours ago, daveyboy66 said: Apart from Wembley how many times has the band turned up for an away day ? You have at least 3 people in this thread that have said they never heard the band at Wembley in a scintillating atmosphere so at best their effect at Wembley was marginal Edited February 3, 2018 by Lawrie Madden Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tyto Alba Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Get rid and lets have a normal football atmosphere. They're a crushing embarassment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 Just now, Tyto Alba said: Get rid and lets have a normal football atmosphere. They're a crushing embarassment. Absolute tin pot mate. And we slate other clubs for far less. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 On 02/02/2018 at 17:24, @owlstalk said: The club survey going out to customers today has this question... i've been going since the late 60's and hillsborough has always has a problem with the atmosphere, until it is sorted, the band is needed, they drown out most of the booing anyway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
archieswfc Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 42 minutes ago, dnhc said: i've been going since the late 60's and hillsborough has always has a problem with the atmosphere, until it is sorted, the band is needed, they drown out most of the booing anyway. There wasn't a problem in the early 90's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted February 3, 2018 Share Posted February 3, 2018 40 minutes ago, archieswfc said: There wasn't a problem in the early 90's. there has nearly always been a problem, firstly with the roof missing the sound just went out, then when a roof was fitted i very much doubt that a great deal of thought went into the acoustics. in later years our more vocal (on away grounds) support is spread within hillsborough so badly diluting it's effect, add to that we've not had the best side in the land, and perhaps not even in the top 30/40% to be fair. there has been grumbling and booing taking place at times, more often than cheering and singing, and we can't wait to have a premier league team to have an atmosphere. also the band hides the embarrassment of sides singing 'is this a library' until we can sort out the home support (and i can't see that in the next ten years) we need the band in the library. we have a real problem with atmosphere for home support, that isn't helped by the west stand acoustics (and the congestion of away fans) making that the noisy area of the ground. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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