Guest Hillsborough Mole Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 9 hours ago, Morepork said: Not much in there that we didn't know or couldn't make an educated guess at. I'd quite happily see us take the Brentford route although their Scouting Network and Youth Academy are very highly regarded 7 minutes ago, scram said: Brentford don't have an academy Was that something you knew, or took an educated guess about? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sheffield_dave Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 7 minutes ago, A12owl said: Wolves seem to have got it right and should be fortunate enough to leave the championship behind at the first money blowing attempt. I'm not sure if Wolves have been clever about it at all. It's just a different approach. They've absolutely blown the doors off financially and just put the foot down on the pedal from the off. It's paying off but it was a risk. We tried to be a bit cleverer about it. Our business in the first year, players like Hooper and Forrestieri for £3m each, was well thought out. Good players with proven quality at fee's that you obviously need money to be able to afford, but at the same time weren't outlandish for this level. Unfortunately such smarts didn't last. Like a lot of other things, as a club we seemed to lose our heads after Wembley. I stand by that criticism of Carlos wasn't a new thing exclusive to this season. People have been rightly so - and been shouted down for on here - asking lots of questions about where we were going as a club and what was going on with the transfers since the summer after Wembley, and many didn't let a second shot at the play-offs get in the way of such questions last year. I take no pride in it and it's not a good thing, but I believe ignoring some of the issues last year is why this year seems to have slapped so many people around the face. There are people on this forum asking questions about elements of the club, who quite possibly criticised others for asking 18 months ago. Personally speaking, I wouldn't renew a single senior contract for at least the next two summers, even it means seeing good players leave for nothing. Our transfer business over the last two years has left us with an ageing, expensive and tired looking squad. It needs freshening up physically and mentally, and I'm encouraged by the early signs that Jos is already looking to do this. We absolutely need to learn from some of the wastage of the last 2 years and go again with the same vigour and strategy as our first season under Carlos. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 27 minutes ago, Hillsborough Mole said: Was that something you knew, or took an educated guess about? I knew it It isn't a secret they closed their academy Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
cowl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 5 minutes ago, scram said: I knew it It isn't a secret they closed their academy I believe Huddersfield Town did this recently too? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
scram Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Indeed - earlier this season But Hudds have dropped to Cat 4 - ie they maintain an u18 team - but 6-16's has gone Brentford dropped out of the system altogether - preferring to run a "B team" and find their own games programme Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semedo's ferret Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 do we have anything that looks like this? Utds accounts for 2016/17. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Semedo's ferret Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 ^^^ what can we take from the above? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 On Tuesday, January 23, 2018 at 11:50, ramone said: Not listened but surely its all just speculation... Exactly this. Unless it come officially from the club, why bother wasting your life listening to it. Not having a go at the producers or anything, but so much rumours and online pages of speculation. Stick to the official swfc webpage for announcements. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 minute ago, pride_of_the_road said: Exactly this. Unless it come officially from the club, why bother wasting your life listening to it. Not having a go at the producers or anything, but so much rumours and online pages of speculation. Stick to the official swfc webpage for announcements. This was my point all along. Surely, without knowing individual contracts, you simply cant give any indication as to whether good with FFP or not. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
vulva Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Semedo's ferret said: ^^^ what can we take from the above? That they are a bunch of scruffy pigs. Grant Thornton et al may deduce a totally different story from those numbers tbf, but I don’t have my ACA qualification. Edited January 24, 2018 by vulva Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 4 hours ago, owls maniac said: I think the ticket prices are untenable if we forecast being mid table for the next few years whilst we rebuild the team. Has a club ever reduced ticket prices in the same division? Genuine question, is there a precedent for this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReluctantNicko Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) 16 hours ago, steelowl said: one fact that sticks in my throat is Leicester being 14th richest club in the world talk about flouting financial responsibility (twice) paying off Totally agree! Everyone bangs on about how great it would be to pull off a "miracle" PL title win like Leicester did in 2015/16, but it hardly gets mentioned that they "cheated" twice in the first place to get promotion to the top flight in this century. Bournemouth were nearly as bad getting promoted despite showing "complete disregard" for FFP rules while other clubs tried to play by the book. QPR did the same as Bournemouth but it backfired when they were quickly relegated. The same could well happen to Wolves next season - relying solely on one "super agent" for success is a recipe for disaster in my book. Edited January 24, 2018 by ReluctantNicko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 38 minutes ago, pride_of_the_road said: Exactly this. Unless it come officially from the club, why bother wasting your life listening to it. Not having a go at the producers or anything, but so much rumours and online pages of speculation. Stick to the official swfc webpage for announcements. Each to their own and everyone is free to make their own judgement but you simply cannot go through life ignoring speculation and conjecture because it has not come from an official source. Remember prior to last year that the official line regarding fire safety in tower blocks was that there was nothing to worry about? There are occasions when it is wise to harbour a little scepticism. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 6 minutes ago, Rebowl Yell said: Has a club ever reduced ticket prices in the same division? Genuine question, is there a precedent for this? I am sure Wednesday did it about ten years ago when Lee Stafford took over and knocked about Fiver off the prices. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
pride_of_the_road Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 10 minutes ago, ChinaOwl said: Each to their own and everyone is free to make their own judgement but you simply cannot go through life ignoring speculation and conjecture because it has not come from an official source. Remember prior to last year that the official line regarding fire safety in tower blocks was that there was nothing to worry about? There are occasions when it is wise to harbour a little scepticism. What has that got to do with football? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Just now, pride_of_the_road said: What has that got to do with football? As far as I am concerned, the subject matter may be different but the overall principle applies. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ReluctantNicko Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 (edited) If you think hard, did the Blades "overspend" to buy promotion 10/12 years ago? Warnock was buying expensive strikers like Akinbiyi and Hulse like a kid in a sweetshop. They managed to get to "the promised land" but it all went downhill when they were instantly relegated. More or less "belt-tightening" ever since. A point at home to Wigan on the final day would have saved them. "Margins,...." Edited January 24, 2018 by ReluctantNicko Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
The Batman Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 JUst listening. At the part where he's saying that, we're not a big club un terms of spending. We're about 8th and playing catch up. I've been saying it for ages, when people are going on about how we should be top 2 or whatever. Our expectations have been daft over the past few years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rebowl Yell Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 1 hour ago, Rebowl Yell said: Has a club ever reduced ticket prices in the same division? Genuine question, is there a precedent for this? I can see that, I really liked him actually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
leighrichy Posted January 24, 2018 Share Posted January 24, 2018 Great recording. Well done Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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