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jos will know the best for him. Dont get me wrong the guy is sound but its not enough to better us as a squad. It reminds of the time llera wasn't half as good, but everyone loved the guy. 

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who's the best bet to help us thru to the next round loovens, nielsson ,o'grady ....if he wants to see the youngsters against stiffer opposites than Carlisle then go with one of them and see how they fare against some decent quality like kermagant barrow ,aluko etc etc . ....i'd personally go for loovens but if he does want to test one of the rookies at a better level then the cup is the game do it in . 

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He wasn't good enough last season and hasn't shown anything to suggest he is any better this season. Mistake after mistake from Loovens have cost us this season.

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I think Jos will play a strong side and staying with a back 3 with Loovens in the middle with Pudil and Fred each side .

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Been a very good player for us over the years but he’s just making more and more silly mistakes now. That said I would rather him play in the cup than in the league.  Would prefer us to give youth a chance. 

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Good player. Had injury problems this year. Came back into a team with loads of injuries and was unfairly sent off.

 

Give our players a chance. Still a great captain.

 

Can't we support players rather than the eternal search for a scapegoat. 

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9 minutes ago, Owl in Nottingham said:

Good player. Had injury problems this year. Came back into a team with loads of injuries and was unfairly sent off.

 

Give our players a chance. Still a great captain.

 

Can't we support players rather than the eternal search for a scapegoat. 

He doesn’t need a chance he’s 34 and been a good player in the past . 

 

He isnt a scapegoat , he just isn’t up to the task . It’s that simple . There doesn’t always have to be a big deal made out of everything. 

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1 minute ago, james o connor said:

He doesn’t need a chance he’s 34 and been a good player in the past . 

 

He isnt a scapegoat , he just isn’t up to the task . It’s that simple . There doesn’t always have to be a big deal made out of everything. 

 

No big deal. I just think he has proved to be a good player for us (how many of our centre backs can boast the same number of clean sheets?)

 

I see no rush to write him off. 34 is not old in today's game.   

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This is ideal opportunity to test  Grady or Nielsen against a better quality of opposition. We will need as many players as possible up to speed in the championship ,to make sure we get away from any relegation threat . These two & Thorniley  could prove to be the best business we do this transfer window. And might even save us money in transfers come the summer.

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Two Silly inexperienced mistakes from an old pro and captain that should know better and could have cost us in the Derby going down to 10 men for half an hour. 

The young lads have come in, we've kept clean sheets, they havnt put a foot wrong looking more composed on the ball too. For me after Carlos we need to show if you come in you do an effective job and play well no matter who it is you carry on until either rested or dropped due to form, so for me O.'Grady and Nielson are ahead of him n the last couple of games, so should come back in. 

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1 hour ago, Owl in Nottingham said:

 

No big deal. I just think he has proved to be a good player for us (how many of our centre backs can boast the same number of clean sheets?)

 

I see no rush to write him off. 34 is not old in today's game.   

Eh? 34 is old in today's game. This is the age most footballers retire.

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Could his loss of pace (and there also timing)  be due to the lack of fitness in the squad from the previous regime? I think he's done enough previously to be given time to prove himself (again) with improved fitness. 

 

Edit. He needs to earn his place back first

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Is it just me who rather leave it back three as it was last friday against Colins lot. ? 

 

Why should young Thorniley lose his place after such a solid debut ? 

 

Let Loovens sit on the bench..

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13 hours ago, torryowl said:

who's the best bet to help us thru to the next round loovens, nielsson ,o'grady ....if he wants to see the youngsters against stiffer opposites than Carlisle then go with one of them and see how they fare against some decent quality like kermagant barrow ,aluko etc etc . ....i'd personally go for loovens but if he does want to test one of the rookies at a better level then the cup is the game do it in . 

 

 

Which is exactly what Jos did with Thorniley against Colins lot . I thought he had a solid game up against Zahore , one of the better championship wingers. 

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12 hours ago, hugeowl said:

I think Jos will play a strong side and staying with a back 3 with Loovens in the middle with Pudil and Fred each side .

Probably this

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18 hours ago, Morepork said:

 

Yep, his loss of pace has reached a tipping point, also his timing in the challenge has become a liability, unfortunately. Leader in the dressing room is his primary role for the remainder of this season IMO.

We are not playing to his strengths. 

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1 minute ago, RocketOwl said:

We are not playing to his strengths. 

 

Table Tennis? 

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winter is coming..........

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Not really needed - bench at best

 

Venancio has been a good addition and with Lees back in training and Pudil playing well it’s hard to see where Loovens fits in.

 

He has been great but the legs have gone and what little pace he had has left town. 

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