Mike Hunt Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Never been a fan of it myself , always preferred making sure the man you are marking does not get a free hit Looks like Jos has binned it as well . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tamworthowl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Zonal marking needs top top quality defenders to work. Few teams can manage it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nevthelodgemoorowl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 My preference is a mix of Man to man and ensuring some sort of nudge or contact is made. This combined with holding the line and playing the forwards offside. Man to man can be quite confusing in a crowded box and it's difficult for the keeper. The central free kick can be difficult as there is usually one weak link in the wall, Increasingly we see deflected goals because defenders in the wall turn. You could counter this defending with a smaller wall a little deeper and delegate someone to cover the furthest post at the last second. Playing the offside for deeper set pieces allows your keeper some room that gives him the option to come out and collect. The biggest problem remains that out of 7 or 8 defending you usually find one player at least who is not alert to certain dangers. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Ive always seen zonal marking as basically marking a square of grass . You see players let the opposition players run straight past them if they arnt in their zone. Id rather every player has their own man to mark . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Blatter Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Can't remember who said Zones don't score goals. Mark your man Megson?? Sounds like his sort of comment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 (edited) Used to do my head in...opposition player being marked ... turns and moves six feet behind and instead of following him and dealing with it leaves it to someone else who’s already got someone hanging off their shirt. Place for it when the ball is on the move but never at set pieces. Get your man and deal with him. Edited January 21, 2018 by Freshfish Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 Weakness with zonal is defender has to jump in his area, whereas the attacker can run into the defender's zone with momentum, and smash both ball and defender into the net. Man for man in my opinion is better, but if defender is obstructed by another attacker 'your man' will probably be free (remember one of the goals at Norwich?) Can't remember when we last used zonal, except one period in 80s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Animis Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 was it Ipswich or Norwich away we used it it to laughable affect. As has been mentioned above, you need quick and strong defenders to master this method not old and slow journey men. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theowlsman Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 I’m absolutely fascinated to see how long Carlos lasts at Swansea with his verbal diarrhoea Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
oldishowl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 42 minutes ago, Animis said: was it Ipswich or Norwich away we used it it to laughable affect. As has been mentioned above, you need quick and strong defenders to master this method not old and slow journey men. Well we didn’t use it at Norwich. Loovens was man marking their goal scorer from the corner but lost him Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 46 minutes ago, theowlsman said: I’m absolutely fascinated to see how long Carlos lasts at Swansea with his verbal diarrhoea His charm doesn’t seem to be working. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted January 21, 2018 Share Posted January 21, 2018 whenever they man mark someone always seems to get blocked off leaving a free header for the opposites ,loovens being a classic example at Norwich . if jos as binned this I can understand why . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ash60s Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 is it Jos' way of saying we not good enough to execute zonal marking? It takes much discipline and when its a group there's allus a weak link I'm happy with defending since his arrival - its tuther end that needs attention now! Roll on next season, in fact roll on summer cos it'll be a busy one for us that's for sure! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S36 OWL Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 8 hours ago, Freshfish said: Used to do my head in...opposition player being marked ... turns and moves six feet behind and instead of following him and dealing with it leaves it to someone else who’s already got someone hanging off their shirt. Place for it when the ball is on the move but never at set pieces. Get your man and deal with him. Exactly mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian_D Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Thought this might have been another Dutch player linked to us. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
legendaryswan Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Ive been moaning about this for ages,good to see JL sees it the same Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Toon Owl Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Damn it. I thought the thread title was the name of a player we were looking at. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
OhForAnotherShez Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 Charlie Williamson - remember him? He once explained the system we were using when he was in the team. We used to zonal mark BUT had a couple of players man marking their danger men. At Cambridge Charlie was expected to man mark Ross Jenkins, who some of us will remember. Charlie approx. 5'9", whereas Ross is the only guy on earth still able to see Simmonsen's penalty. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 if you are zonal marking EVERYMAN MUST ATTACK THE BALL AGGRESSIVELY EVERY TIME, other additional options are 1) whilst man to man marking their biggest threats, 2) and/or having smaller more nimble players obstructing the run of their biggest threats. it only need one man to fail in man to man or zonal and they've a free man in your box as we all know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dorian gray Posted January 22, 2018 Share Posted January 22, 2018 20 hours ago, OhForAnotherShez said: Weakness with zonal is defender has to jump in his area, whereas the attacker can run into the defender's zone with momentum, and smash both ball and defender into the net. Man for man in my opinion is better, but if defender is obstructed by another attacker 'your man' will probably be free (remember one of the goals at Norwich?) Can't remember when we last used zonal, except one period in 80s. the defender attacks the area in front of him, it's not a standing start., if you're man to man, you're waiting for him to move first, the reason it is still ether/either is because neither are perfect or foolproof, and when one goes wrong fans are baying for the other. at present some 'tv expert' has trashed zonal, so zonal is sh*t amongst those that heard him, or picked up something down the line from it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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