lancashireowl Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He’s looked assured, composed and confident for me. Looks far better than Van Aken ( who I think will come good) and Loovens. Also, bigger clubs than us were interested at some points. Why on earth was he not near the starting 11? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Hitcat Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I heard a rumour he trod on Carlos' toe in training. 3 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
alanharper Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Because he was 4th choice behind Lees, Loovens and Van Aken. With 2 of them out injured he's been playing, although Pudil is in contention for that slot as well. Plus with O'Grady, Neilson and Thorniley as options we're actually stronger at CB than we thought we were. Venancio has been patient and took his chance very well I think, the whole loan did seem to be a waste of time at one point. With Jos favouring 3 at the back he'll probably get more gametime even when Lees and Van Aken are back. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lancashireowl Posted January 17, 2018 Author Share Posted January 17, 2018 1 minute ago, alanharper said: Because he was 4th choice behind Lees, Loovens and Van Aken. With 2 of them out injured he's been playing, although Pudil is in contention for that slot as well. Plus with O'Grady, Neilson and Thorniley as options we're actually stronger at CB than we thought we were. Venancio has been patient and took his chance very well I think, the whole loan did seem to be a waste of time at one point. With Jos favouring 3 at the back he'll probably get more gametime even when Lees and Van Aken are back. I understand him being behind Lees and Van Aken to an extent given the fee we paid for him. But Loovens is shot to bits and has looked so for quite a while now, just has no legs at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
room0035 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Because he was not one of Carlos favoured 6 or 7 who play every game. It show when you have a squad of over 25-30 players and the same 8 or 9 play every game, no wonder we have struggled when these players have been out because the rest don't play in the same team unless you included in training. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Eaton_Swfc Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Just one of many players frozen out by CC for no apparent reason. Has looked good since playing. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
sweetsheri Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 He Objected to Honey being drizzled into his pre match soup 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owl999 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 11 minutes ago, lancashireowl said: He’s looked assured, composed and confident for me. Looks far better than Van Aken ( who I think will come good) and Loovens. Also, bigger clubs than us were interested at some points. Why on earth was he not near the starting 11? Because Carlos was a p1ss poor coach, end of . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
bigash_swfc Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Carlos didn't like risks. He wanted to stay employed while the Swansea post became vacant Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N0rtherner Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 For Carlos it seems it was important to have an extra player for every position, but not use or manage them, just have them sit by idly twiddling their thumbs, even forcing the semi-recovered first team players back into action at the expense of their covers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bleeder Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 (edited) Fair question. He's certainly looked more assured than Van Aken. (And Loovens for that matter) Edited January 17, 2018 by Bleeder Content Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ramone Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 3 minutes ago, Eaton_Swfc said: Just one of many players frozen out by CC for no apparent reason. Has looked good since playing. Was he 'frozen out' though? Or was it just he decided he was bottom of the pecking order. Whether thats right or wrong given his ability we'll all have our own opinions. Personally i think he's done great and would be a better option than Van Aken and probably Loovens. But lets not make things up and say he was 'frozen out'. Thats just not true is it Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest wilyfox Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Doing well. Keep it up Fred. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mr. Chow Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 We signed for cover, but I also think Carlos had his favourites. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trevdi9 Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 couldn't get time off from the Trams job 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kingsidney Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Cos Carlos is absolute shybo. 1 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ash-Williams Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 I belive it was due to his own fitness plan, he was going to the gym everyday against what CC wanted. he could be found everyday at ponds forge instead of sat at home doing nothing 2 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
brando Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 38 minutes ago, lancashireowl said: I understand him being behind Lees and Van Aken to an extent given the fee we paid for him. But Loovens is shot to bits and has looked so for quite a while now, just has no legs at all. Very true is a hinderance now Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Stoop Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 39 minutes ago, room0035 said: Because he was not one of Carlos favoured 6 or 7 who play every game. It show when you have a squad of over 25-30 players and the same 8 or 9 play every game, no wonder we have struggled when these players have been out because the rest don't play in the same team unless you included in training. Exactly Must have been great for squad morale Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
steveger Posted January 17, 2018 Share Posted January 17, 2018 Was caught pulling wheelies on Carlos mountain bike before he put some stabilisers on it and gave it to Fernando 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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