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On 5/11/2018 at 12:30, SallyCinnamon said:

 

The working man can't relate to a multi-millionaire who lives in LA mixing with big wigs and dabbling in all sorts of halluceogenics.

 

Likewise Turner no longer relates to the working man.

 

People can't expect him to sing about stuff which relates to them. Like working 9-5 or going pub after work. It's not his life so why would he write songs about it. 

 

At the end of the day it's still a pretty good album compared to a lot of stuff out these days. 

Was thinking earlier, there a lot of parallels between Alex and Mike Skinner, both wrote 2 incredible records when they were basically kids, both are really about the same thing, growing up in England.

 

The problem after that is what do you write wheb you’re a rock star but your stock in trade is kitchen sink drama.

 

Alex had made a better first of it than Skinner, but I’d argue that all of their work, post those first 4 records, is patchy at best.

 

I see this album as Alex trying to redefine himself, and the band. I can see why lots don’t like it, but I think it’s amazing 

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Podcast out on most outlets now: https://www.deejayone.co.uk/podcast/the-deejayone-podcast/item/91-listen-rgm-x-deejayone-an-arctic-monkeys-special-tranquility-base-podcast.html

 

(Apple Podcasts is delayed showing it live on iTunes, but it will download if you subscribe on the Podcasts app).

 

Find out why the album IS brilliant (or not), plus what is going down in the pop-up shops, and more nonsense.

 

Will also be available on the RGM podcasts feed from tomorrow.

 

 

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I think I’m going to really like this. It’s sumptuous. Maybe some people just have an expectation for what an Arctic Monkeys album should sound like. If that expectation isn’t met then it’s you're own problem really. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.

 

Don’t understand the whole ‘solo album’ thing - like genuinely don’t know why people say that.

 

It’s lovely

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1 hour ago, NYCOWL said:

Was thinking earlier, there a lot of parallels between Alex and Mike Skinner, both wrote 2 incredible records when they were basically kids, both are really about the same thing, growing up in England.

 

The problem after that is what do you write wheb you’re a rock star but your stock in trade is kitchen sink drama.

 

Alex had made a better first of it than Skinner, but I’d argue that all of their work, post those first 4 records, is patchy at best.

 

I see this album as Alex trying to redefine himself, and the band. I can see why lots don’t like it, but I think it’s amazing 

 

I think it's a natural progression. I saw this coming after AM and the latest Shadow Puppets album. At first couldn't get into it, but now love this record. 

 

It's different but I like that.

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1 minute ago, Sonny said:

I think I’m going to really like this. It’s sumptuous. Maybe some people just have an expectation for what an Arctic Monkeys album should sound like. If that expectation isn’t met then it’s you're own problem really. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.

 

Don’t understand the whole ‘solo album’ thing - like genuinely don’t know why people say that.

 

It’s lovely

 

I don't get what people expect. Every Arctics album has been different. At the end of the day that's what's going to make them stand the test of time. Alex is a genius and Sheffield should be proud of it.

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8 minutes ago, Sonny said:

I think I’m going to really like this. It’s sumptuous. Maybe some people just have an expectation for what an Arctic Monkeys album should sound like. If that expectation isn’t met then it’s you're own problem really. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.

 

Don’t understand the whole ‘solo album’ thing - like genuinely don’t know why people say that.

 

It’s lovely

 

There's no indication at all - as far as I can see - that the rest of the band are any less invested in this than any of their other material. I think the thing about it sounding like a solo album comes from the fact that Turner has been more open to "side projects" and experimentation previously, and generally seems to set the tone.

 

There's also some banter going around about Helders' lack of drumming. But I tell you what, for me this is comfortably the Monkeys best album musically. Don't let the the softer, "spacey" tone of the album fool anybody. This album strides along some brilliant baselines and the guitar rifts, when they get going, are the best they've ever sounded IMO. 

 

There's a LOT going on on this album. Most of it is some of their best material. 

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17 minutes ago, sheffield_dave said:

 

There's no indication at all - as far as I can see - that the rest of the band are any less invested in this than any of their other material. I think the thing about it sounding like a solo album comes from the fact that Turner has been more open to "side projects" and experimentation previously, and generally seems to set the tone.

 

There's also some banter going around about Helders' lack of drumming. But I tell you what, for me this is comfortably the Monkeys best album musically. Don't let the the softer, "spacey" tone of the album fool anybody. This album strides along some brilliant baselines and the guitar rifts, when they get going, are the best they've ever sounded IMO. 

 

There's a LOT going on on this album. Most of it is some of their best material. 

 

Correct. Alex has said as much in some of the interviews. Said that Jamie is very happy with it, and we can only presume that they all are. They're grown men and it's their career. Why would they go along with something that they're not happy with?

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1 hour ago, Sonny said:

I think I’m going to really like this. It’s sumptuous. Maybe some people just have an expectation for what an Arctic Monkeys album should sound like. If that expectation isn’t met then it’s you're own problem really. Doesn’t necessarily mean it’s bad.

 

Don’t understand the whole ‘solo album’ thing - like genuinely don’t know why people say that.

 

It’s lovely

There are some people, and I mean some, not all, who think that because they saw them play at the boardwalk when they were 17, thatvthey have some kind of ownership of the band.

 

Ive heard it a lot today. “It’s not an arctic monkeys record”

 

i said it to a mate, (who promptly pinched it for his review of the album) https://www.vogue.com/article/arctic-monkeys-tranquility-base-hotel-casino-review

 

This is Alex’s Kid A, where he gets to say “fúck you, I’ll do whatever I want”

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9 hours ago, sheffield_dave said:

 

There's no indication at all - as far as I can see - that the rest of the band are any less invested in this than any of their other material. I think the thing about it sounding like a solo album comes from the fact that Turner has been more open to "side projects" and experimentation previously, and generally seems to set the tone.

 

There's also some banter going around about Helders' lack of drumming. But I tell you what, for me this is comfortably the Monkeys best album musically. Don't let the the softer, "spacey" tone of the album fool anybody. This album strides along some brilliant baselines and the guitar rifts, when they get going, are the best they've ever sounded IMO. 

 

There's a LOT going on on this album. Most of it is some of their best material. 

Musically? I'm not trying to be controversial here. The piano compositions are embarrassingly basic. I agree there are some reasonable bass lines, sometimes interesting lyrics. People may like it but he's not talented enough to produce anything of note on a piano, sounds like a gcse music student. If he insists on trying to prove he's a more rounded musician than he is, he should get more piano lessons because God he needs em.

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2 hours ago, owls89 said:

Musically? I'm not trying to be controversial here. The piano compositions are embarrassingly basic. I agree there are some reasonable bass lines, sometimes interesting lyrics. People may like it but he's not talented enough to produce anything of note on a piano, sounds like a gcse music student. If he insists on trying to prove he's a more rounded musician than he is, he should get more piano lessons because God he needs em.

 

No controversial about it! I'm not going to pretend I know enough about playing the piano to judge Turners playing of it.

 

But I do know TBH+C and Four out of Five in particular blow my flipping ears off. 

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3 hours ago, owls89 said:

Musically? I'm not trying to be controversial here. The piano compositions are embarrassingly basic. I agree there are some reasonable bass lines, sometimes interesting lyrics. People may like it but he's not talented enough to produce anything of note on a piano, sounds like a gcse music student. If he insists on trying to prove he's a more rounded musician than he is, he should get more piano lessons because God he needs em.

 

It’s still rock and roll music though isn’t it. Proficiency on an instrument is secondary to the whole otherwise we may as well just listen to Rachmaninoff and Steve Vai.

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