stompingowl Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Wasn't helped by yet another poor clearance from Van Atken. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 7 minutes ago, stompingowl said: Wasn't helped by yet another poor clearance from Van Atken. You can’t blame Van Aken for a keeper fumbling a dolly into the net from 25 yards. He made the first clearance, that’s his job...get the ball moving away from goal Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, Owls2k said: Okay Sheff Wed 1 - 2 Middlesbro - 1 mistake, 1 penalty save, 1 point blank save Sheff Wed 0 - 1 Wolves - ? Bolton 2 - 1 Sheff Wed - ? Sheff Wed 3 - 0 Leeds - ? Birmingham 1 - 0 Sheff Wed - ? Burton 1 - 1 Sheff Wed ? Which was the game with the duff clearance? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Daavies; Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Keeper made a point blank save, saved a penalty and some of you are saying he doesn’t have it in him? I have absolutely no idea what game you watched yesterday but I’m not blaming the keeper for the shower of poo we watched at Hillsborough. It’s the 10 other players’ fault for not getting out to block the shot or create anything positive in the other 89 minutes of the game. his kicking is also ten times better than Westwood’s. Young keepers make mistakes. It happens. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 9 minutes ago, Daavies; said: Keeper made a point blank save, saved a penalty and some of you are saying he doesn’t have it in him? I have absolutely no idea what game you watched yesterday but I’m not blaming the keeper for the shower of poo we watched at Hillsborough. It’s the 10 other players’ fault for not getting out to block the shot or create anything positive in the other 89 minutes of the game. his kicking is also ten times better than Westwood’s. Young keepers make mistakes. It happens. The best keepers make the fewest mistakes. The majority of keepers save a few penalties throughout their career Amazing how you can be totally absolved from any blame as an academy graduate. Edited December 24, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I believe Wildsmith will be a solid keeper for us but like many have said he needs to be playing regular football, you can spend all day on the trg pitch but you cant prepare for game situations in trg. It's the atmosphere, the pressure and the emotion that he needs to feel and get used to. I fully believe that he made that mistake because of the penalty save, he's a young keeper and he's just saved a penalty for the team he supports, he must have been on cloud 9, he let the emotion get to him, now he needs to learn from that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 (edited) 4 minutes ago, Sgt Wednesday said: I believe Wildsmith will be a solid keeper for us but like many have said he needs to be playing regular football, you can spend all day on the trg pitch but you cant prepare for game situations in trg. It's the atmosphere, the pressure and the emotion that he needs to feel and get used to. I fully believe that he made that mistake because of the penalty save, he's a young keeper and he's just saved a penalty for the team he supports, he must have been on cloud 9, he let the emotion get to him, now he needs to learn from that. Totally agree. And Bamford reacted like he did because he was baiting him all game Edited December 24, 2017 by McRightSide Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orlando_Trustful Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Not sure he's good enough. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 Have a day off ... Joe is gunna be a top keeper Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sgt Wednesday Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 minutes ago, McRightSide said: The best keepers make the fewest mistakes. The majority of keepers save penalties Amazing how you can be totally absolved from any blame as an academy graduate. Or are you being more harsh on the lad because he's from the academy? You are comparing him to the 'best keepers' well no one is saying he's the best keeper in the world. Why not compare him to all the other 21 year old keepers in the country? Jordan Pickford is probably the best young Keeper about, he still makes mistakes though and he's had 2 years more experience than Joe. Joe Wildsmith is not far from where Pickford was 2 years ago. Pickford is now in the England set up. Let the f'king lad develop before writing him off. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Grez Bez Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, sMacLean said: For a club supposedly trying to get auto promotion to rely on kids as support keepers is just not happening.Must be a decent experienced keeper. Funny that because half the fanbase are shouting to start George Hirst & Penney despite never seeing them play! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Philb125 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I think Westwood has made more mistakes this season than Wildsmith. I'm not saying he's finished article but if he played all season I'd not be upset either. This season is almost dead now - barring an incredible fight back for the play off spots I'd not be too displeased to see a few of the young uns get a shot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
britpunk77 Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 2 hours ago, Owls2k said: When did Wildsmith last cost us any points? Played his part in the 4-1 defeat at Ashton Gate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
BDM4nil Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 I thought Wildsmith played well yesterday. His distribution was good and quick and he made good saves and generally handled well and looked composed and assured IMO. Yeah he dropped a b!!!!ck and has also previously dropped the odd one, I accept. In fairness though all keepers do, but in general terms i would say he looks a good and promising young goalkeeper, who will also get better with age and experience. I'm glad we've got him and a he's Wednesday fan to boot - always a bonus. UTO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: Which was the game with the duff clearance? So he didn't make any mistakes in those games then, despite you alluding to the fact he makes a critical mistake every time he puts on a shirt? Glad we have cleared that one up. The poor clearance was against Middlesbrough in the FA Cup, a game we were already 1-0 down in. It was also exactly the same error that seasoned pro Westwood made at Brentford in the same season. "How many points does he need to cost us before we get a proper back up for Westwood and send him out on loan? Awful howler...again" To clarify, you cannot remember a single game where he has cost us any points before yesterday, and it is highly debatable to suggest he did cost us points yesterday given his other contributions and the fact it was our poorest team performance since the derby. The argument for a high level number 2 is a valid one, claiming our current one produces a howler with each appearance ("Just pick a game he played") is complete nonsense, but unfortunately this is typical of the type of embarrassing blinkered scapegoating we've become accustomed to seeing from our supporters. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Owls2k Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 41 minutes ago, britpunk77 said: Played his part in the 4-1 defeat at Ashton Gate. Played his part by having 0 chance with the first 3 goals? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: You cant give MOTM to a keeper when they make a howler like that in a game that finishes 2-1 Did you see the flipping rest of them yesterday? Who would you give MOTM to then? Pupil, Palmer were pathetic. We should have conceded 5 or 6 goals. Hutch was the only midfielder to show up and he gave away a penalty. Reach, Jones and Wallace were all sh*t. Hooper did nothing but shout at his team mates. Dave had a decent game. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
McRightSide Posted December 24, 2017 Author Share Posted December 24, 2017 13 minutes ago, Owls2k said: So he didn't make any mistakes in those games then, despite you alluding to the fact he makes a critical mistake every time he puts on a shirt? Glad we have cleared that one up. The poor clearance was against Middlesbrough in the FA Cup, a game we were already 1-0 down in. It was also exactly the same error that seasoned pro Westwood made at Brentford in the same season. "How many points does he need to cost us before we get a proper back up for Westwood and send him out on loan? Awful howler...again" To clarify, you cannot remember a single game where he has cost us any points before yesterday, and it is highly debatable to suggest he did cost us points yesterday given his other contributions and the fact it was our poorest team performance since the derby. The argument for a high level number 2 is a valid one, claiming our current one produces a howler with each appearance ("Just pick a game he played") is complete nonsense, but unfortunately this is typical of the type of embarrassing blinkered scapegoating we've become accustomed to seeing from our supporters. He regularly makes mistakes. Critical ones that lead to goals Needs to go out, play and come back if and when he’s ready. Right now, he’s offering up a major clanged far too often. bury you head in the sand if you want. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: The best keepers make the fewest mistakes. The majority of keepers save a few penalties throughout their career Amazing how you can be totally absolved from any blame as an academy graduate. Westwood has made some right shockers this year though, but he's like Bannan. Untouchable. 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CrosbyKitchens Posted December 24, 2017 Share Posted December 24, 2017 1 hour ago, McRightSide said: You can’t blame Van Aken for a keeper fumbling a dolly into the net from 25 yards. He made the first clearance, that’s his job...get the ball moving away from goal It was a crap clearance. Van Aken needs to learn as well though. He's a much better footballer than Lees or Loovens will ever be. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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