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Unfortunately the worst abuse to individuals on site has come from those who wish our manager to remain. I am not defending every post because some have been unkind. however the original poster then deems to make nasty comments about some of those calling for cc to be dismissed. if you look at latest poll you will see our manager has very little support, the chairman still has support offans. Think frustration has got the better of some but when situation resolved hopefully all will be well.

By the way i am certain some of those wanting CC to stay are not wednesday fans.

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1 minute ago, paulrs said:

I can't really take a post seriously that starts by saying how personal abuse and demonisation is so bad, then goes on to call anyone who wants Carlos out a "spoilt child" or "closet pig" :tango:

 

The arguments for sacking Carlos are many, well evidenced and compelling enough that every single fan I speak to plus 98% of the voters in the last poll agree its time for him to go. To dismiss those views as mere "stamping and screaming" says a lot more about you than the people you're writing about in my opinion.

 

 

Exactly. It's football. It's a passionate game of opinions. What you see on the forums is permanent for all to read but it just about mirrors the vitriol you hear in the pubs and in the ground from all sorts of people for decades. I reckon there'd have been a bit of sweary sweary even in 1867. 

 

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1 minute ago, rickygoo said:

They have been few and far between. Questioning his competence and respect for our traditions does not amount to personal insults. 

 

Not saying that there have been a lot, just saying I can agree with the idea that we shouldn't need to resort to any to put forward a point of view.

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How can saying you'd offer to fly him to Portugal yourself be abusive. I'd be over the moon if I was bought flights to Lisbon. Lovely city. Warm but still get a mouthful of Atlantic breeze.

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While not condoning any insults or personal abuse, the idea that people who want the manager gone are not true supporters has to stop.

 

People have genuine opinions and their own reasons for forming those opinions. We all want what's best for the club.

 

I would even argue that the Carlos outers are behaving more rationally than the Carlos backers right now (insults apart). Those who want him gone are basing their opinion on two and a half seasons of evidence. Those who want him to stay seem to be basing their opinion on blind hope that things will improve.

 

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38 minutes ago, S36 OWL said:

 

So its the fans fault the team are playing so poorly ? You sound like Carlos 

Or David Pleat wanting to come out of retirement:duntmatter:

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28 minutes ago, Emilianenko said:

I have and always will support Sheffield Wednesday football club.

For whats best for my club I can no longer support the present manager.

I do not however resort to calling him names yet.

I'm same as you here bud, I'll criticise tactics, signings refusal to change anything,but don't resort to insults or name calling. We all make mistakes some more expensive than others and (the ex girlfriend) is both lol. 

The problem is this season has been littered by mistakes over and over, either some pig witch doctor has reinstalled the curse or the people in charge are running things like the key stone cops. 

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30 minutes ago, Rebowl Yell said:

I'm bookmarking this thread to read later with my horlicks and hobnobs. This is going to be quality entertainment  :goalie:

What pyjamas are you going to wear tonight Reb ..Thunderbirds or UFO ?lol

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31 minutes ago, ny owl said:

i think negative supporters influence confidence which affects performance.  not asking for happy clapping, just less negativity

This has been touched on before the crowd dosent very start as negative, but when the tactics and players do it turns the crowd. Positive action on the pitch produces positivity in the stands. Players and fans feed off each other. 

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7 minutes ago, OWLERTON GHOST said:

Or David Pleat wanting to come out of retirement:duntmatter:

Spent more time up near jessops than with team allegedly 

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1 minute ago, TINKERBELL said:

Spent more time up near jessops than with team allegedly 

 

No wonder I couldn't find any in Havelock Square :biggrin:

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2 minutes ago, TINKERBELL said:

Spent more time up near jessops than with team allegedly 

Wife was expecting ? .............................................

To find him up there given the reputation :stuwinky:

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Just now, Dronfield Blue said:

 

No wonder I couldn't find any in Havelock Square :biggrin:

Naughty naughty man :biggrin:

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There was a great joke going about at the time but don't know if I'm allowed to post it

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Just now, TINKERBELL said:

There was a great joke going about at the time but don't know if I'm allowed to post it

 

PM it, I'll post it :biggrin:

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80 points were needed for the playoffs last season as it stands we now need 2.1 point per game to even make the playoffs. 

Seasons oven in December, Carlos has gotten off pretty lightly so far if you ask me. 

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2 minutes ago, Dronfield Blue said:

 

PM it, I'll post it :biggrin:

Sent it :biggrin:

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44 minutes ago, briggowl said:

 

One of my life goals is to be quoted......one day!

Bingo!

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I agree that there is no call for abuse, I do however think it is time for Carlos to go. With regard to Mr Chansiri I just cannot understand the negativity towards him, yes he has done some thinks I don’t agree with,has made mistakes, but just look at what he has invested in the club, we are beyond recognition from a few years ago. 

  I believe he is a sincere and principled man, a man who does want to take us to the Premier League. Being from Thailand he may not understand all the negativity/ abuse towards him, I just hope he does not take it personally and he realises that it is generated because people care and have passion for our club.

But like it or not he has bought the football club, it his bat and ball and he can do with it what he wants, for all our sakes I just hope he does not decide this abuse is too much for him and decide to take his bat and ball home with him, then we will well and truly be foooked.

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Kicking and screaming isn't the best way to go about things but people get frustrated and don't know how else to make it known they want a change.

I want change. I think at this point of the season , the third one in, we aren't the side we should be. We still lack the players we needed 2 years ago. 

Just don't see anything Carlos can do to change it.

Id never give him abuse but I just don't have faith in him and I can't pretend I do.

 

 

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