@owlstalk Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Local fans tend to be the most impatient overall. Sheffielders are the ones who tend to grow annoyed and call for change first You tend to find that fans living slightly further away (London, Lake District, Norwich) who have to travel hundreds of miles to games will try and quench that anger somewhat by stating how far they travel, how frustrated they are but they have no appetite for change yet, and tend on the whole to be slightly more patient But what's more interesting is those even further afield (USA, Australia, Spain etc) will be last to crack. Their patience levels seem way beyond that of the average Sheffielder who is still living and working in the Steel City. Why is that? I think personally that it's simply because those living in far away lands see 'Sheffield Wednesday' very differently given their distance. The whole idea of the football club is more that of a child growing up supporting the Owls. It's more romantic and more serene, calm, patient, and with matches being a big deal to them simply because they hardly ever/never get to see the team in the flesh. Over the last year or so it seems that the call for change has started at Hillsborough and spread out like the fallout from a nuclear blast with those abroad only now starting to truly feel it and experience it for themselves. It's not just the Carlos thing though it's always seemed to me to be the case throughout Sheffield Wednesday's history, but more so since the internet came along and times changed in that respect What do you think? Where do you live and when do you usually go along with the trains of thought? Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
matthefish2002 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I think the supporters living overseas are more patient as they are not the ones paying the eye watering ticket prices. Once you have paid over your money your opinions on the team are more sharpened. Since I have stopped going to the away games I find myself less upset when they play poorly away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ChinaOwl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I would hazard a guess that Sheffield based Wednesday fans are far more likely to be subjected to p i ss taking from rival fans so have a far less tolerance level especially those that work with, go to school with or socialize with United fans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 ive lived between 110 -1500 miles away for 40 years before moving back 2 years ago and my feelings /tolerance as never changed no matter where I've lived ........some who are unhappy at the moment seem to be scattered all over the place so I don't think you can generalise that some are more impatient than others . 1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fuzzy logics Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Without sounding over dramatic I think this seasons been a bit like a sort of grieving process for ALL Wednesday fans....currently I'm somewhere between depression and acceptance where indifference lies... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Costello 77 Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Good op. Be interested what in what people think. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
madfan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 We have been in Devon for 40 years which means we see very few live games. Always view every game by what ever means. I personally think that the expectation levels were raised , perhaps unintentionally by the Chairman when he set his 2 yr target for Premiership football. This to many became the promised land and then the only priority. The vitriol of recent weeks is very undignified and more appropriate of S2, it is also very unfair on a chairman who is still feeling his way. It will take time. My time frame is governed by age alone sadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 So you are saying......... Those that go all of the time and spend a lot of money get more annoyed than the ones that sit at home at watch the scores come in. Hmmmmmm? You are a genius!!! 4 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
james o connor Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Living in Mansfield it’s roughly an hour in car although working on the railways , I usually use the train. For night matches , that hoir drive home can seem a lifetime in most cases, so I guess things like this do add to the impatience Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Freshfish Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 ..after watching Wednesday through the late 60's and 70's patience was the most important life asset Wednesday taught me...that and the majority of fans aren't scummyknobheads and that people come and go but the club remains. Where I live hasn't changed me one bit. Living through the dreadful football and management but with the daft support of friends and comrades was much more influential. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gurujuan Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 An interesting theory, and a good debate. Personally speaking, I think the more sporadic your visits, the less wound up you are likely to get, and generally speaking, the further away you live, the less likely you are to regularly attend Other factors that don’t really effect long distance fans, they aren’t exposed to mockery from local rivals fans Even the price hike in ticket prices, is somehow lost in the general expense regularly faced by the out of towners Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
devonshire owl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I still get angry and really down when the results go against us.but it must be really hard for the people who live in sheffield and have to see and hear about it all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I would guess for the majority it's expectation. For many years we had little money and most were pleased to survive another season, especially in the Championship. When DC took over with the the fanfare of real money and the goal of the promised land within two years and achieving the playoff final so quickly, we all got giddy. What annoys me is when I look at the squad we have and the quality of a few, I expect a team playing exciting football, win lose or draw. Sadly they need a new man at the helm , the current one has lost his way. Where you live has nothing to do with it, IMO. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tarquin Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 (edited) Age and hindsight are wonderful things for a Owls fan. You learn all the time but the more you learn the more you think you know.! As a youngster you learn to play the game , when lifes turn means you stop playing and start watching . This is a dangerous time as you form opinions like speech bubbles in a cartoon. But as time passes you learn that you can use your past experiences to form your opinions . I consider myself to be lucky as advancing age has seen me watch the Owls through some of the worst of times along with some good times (fleetingly). So I think now we are going through a period of suffering with a series of annoying boils , in the past the time of the HMRC orders pre MM we were turning into the Elephant man in comparison . Now firmly in the waiting to see who blinks first CC or DC , but something has to happen and quick . Distance has naff all to do with it Edited December 12, 2017 by Tarquin addition of text Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torryowl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 i'd query that cost of admission is a factor for the locals being more impatient than those that live away.......in my case and no doubt quite a few others it cost me far more to get to the 5 or 6 games a season I attended for 10 years living abroad than my season ticket costs me now i'm back . ........for 30 years I did a 250 mile round trip again like many others do on a regular basis and it's no fun to pay admission 5 gallons of petrol and drive down the M1 late night at night having been hammered by Plymouth .I can well understand why the exiles want to have whinge if they feel the need . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
GoldGigsChris Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 Post brexit brits are more polar in opinions. Those living outside the UK may not be affected by this. Also they're more likely to be earning more and living the high life and not even SWFC can bring them down. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lanzaroteowl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 I'm definitely not patient I was calling for Carlos to go before he was given a new contract at the start of the season I was calling for Jones to go 12 months before the majority The only thing that may make others a little more patient is we don't live amongst Pigs and have to suffer them at the moment But with not many fellow Owls to temper my own impatience I've been ranting all season Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MalagaOwl Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 6 minutes ago, GoldGigsChris said: Post brexit brits are more polar in opinions. Those living outside the UK may not be affected by this. Also they're more likely to be earning more and living the high life and not even SWFC can bring them down. dunno about the "high life" mate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
torres Posted December 12, 2017 Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, @owlstalk said: No That's not what I'm saying at all. Sorry if this thread has confused you. Apologies. I'll do one with more easier to read writing and some pictures next time in big comic sans font so you can be less confused. Despite your flowery vocabulary in your opening post it comes down to the same thing. ''fans from abroad'' - they might get to one match per season if that!! - they don't care what they are seeing, it's all about the occasion for them. Fans such as TorryOwl above travels to watch them ''4 or 5 times a season'' - all respect for doing it but its 10% of the matches a lot of fans go to. The majority of fans that go to most of the games are from Sheffield, so its obviously those that get riled the most. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
@owlstalk Posted December 12, 2017 Author Share Posted December 12, 2017 1 minute ago, torres said: The majority of fans that go to most of the games are from Sheffield, so its obviously those that get riled the most. That's your opinion Let's see how this thread pans out Ps - it's not the opinion of Carlos either who says that the fans that go to the games are the most patient of them all and he's not experienced any manager out calls whatsoever and in fact has experienced nothing but goodwill from our fans at matches Owlstalk Shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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